I am trying to find out how to achieve the CHER effect on vocals. is there a plug in that does this trick. I am sure most of u have heard it. Kanye West also used this. I am just curious.
How to geth that CHER effect on vox?
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Chryst Krispies
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thanks...i guess i need to go buy auto-tune then.. what is considered xtreme settings though, almighty Lord Murphy
i have a couple of ideas for this effect and not with vocals. I agree, it is over done, but im gona bring this to a new level.
Sinister Mephisto
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In Melodyne just select the audio, switch to the modulation edit tool and click and drag until the lines look straight.
Ermz
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From what I understand it's almost any vocal tuning program in grid mode, running with extreme speed and microtuning settings. Just crank everything to the right - that should be a good starting point.
AdamWathan
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The only tuning plugin I've ever used that would actually AUTO tune anything was Waves Tune... Not sure if I just wasn't doing it right but Melodyne and Autotune both made you drag and drop the notes manually, whereas Waves Tune had knobs to control the intensity of the effect and the different parameters in general across the whole vocal track... Also, they all have to read the vocal track into memory by playing through it once before you can change it, and the plugins can only hold a certain amount of audio at a time so you have to render any tuning you do to disk in order to keep it, at least in my experience? Maybe I was doing it all completely wrong?
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You're right about melodyne. But autotune does have an automatic mode where you simply change a couple perameters and select a scale and it does the rest for you in real time. Maybe you missed it? Hard to imagine how you could though.
Also, you don't need to be in grid mode. You can just set it on the defult setting, speed set to 0 and you get instant Cher.
Also, you don't need to be in grid mode. You can just set it on the defult setting, speed set to 0 and you get instant Cher.
Chryst Krispies
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From the Auto Tune manual (PDF)
Retune Speed
Auto-Tune Evo also gives you control over how
rapidly, in time, the pitch adjustment is made
toward the scale tone. This is set with the
Retune Speed control (see Chapter 3 for more
details).
Fast Speed settings are appropriate for short
duration notes and for mechanical instruments,
like oboe or clarinet, whose pitch typically
changes almost instantly. A fast enough setting
will also minimize or completely remove a
vibrato, as well as produce the infamous “Cher
effect.”
Slow Speed settings, on the other hand, are
appropriate for longer notes where you want
expressive pitch gestures (like vibrato) to
come through at the output and for vocal and
instrumental styles that are typified by gradual
slides (portamento) between pitches. An
appropriately selected slow setting can leave
expressive gestures intact while moving the
average pitch to the correct tonal center.
Retune Speed
Auto-Tune Evo also gives you control over how
rapidly, in time, the pitch adjustment is made
toward the scale tone. This is set with the
Retune Speed control (see Chapter 3 for more
details).
Fast Speed settings are appropriate for short
duration notes and for mechanical instruments,
like oboe or clarinet, whose pitch typically
changes almost instantly. A fast enough setting
will also minimize or completely remove a
vibrato, as well as produce the infamous “Cher
effect.”
Slow Speed settings, on the other hand, are
appropriate for longer notes where you want
expressive pitch gestures (like vibrato) to
come through at the output and for vocal and
instrumental styles that are typified by gradual
slides (portamento) between pitches. An
appropriately selected slow setting can leave
expressive gestures intact while moving the
average pitch to the correct tonal center.
autotune 4 or above set the speed to super fast
the rate to 70 and leave all the settings at 0 and let the vocals learn how to manipulate autotune(thats the secrete there) takes a min tofigure how to use it out but its fun when you fin out how...
the rate to 70 and leave all the settings at 0 and let the vocals learn how to manipulate autotune(thats the secrete there) takes a min tofigure how to use it out but its fun when you fin out how...
xmidihcx
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why would you want to sound like c3po?
just kidding, try running an autotune into an autotune etc. ? anyone ever try that?
according to one of the mixing engineers that i studied with, originally cher's producer wanted a natural feel but supposedly the engineer was a n00b and didn't really know what he was doing. the producer must have thought it was "avant guard" or something and the rest is history.
5 years later every rapper and their mother uses this to put singing on their track. it sure is a lot cheaper than flying in nate dog from cali lol
for the record i cant stand the fact that every song abuses this effect...
luckily some guy made this video:
just kidding, try running an autotune into an autotune etc. ? anyone ever try that?
according to one of the mixing engineers that i studied with, originally cher's producer wanted a natural feel but supposedly the engineer was a n00b and didn't really know what he was doing. the producer must have thought it was "avant guard" or something and the rest is history.
5 years later every rapper and their mother uses this to put singing on their track. it sure is a lot cheaper than flying in nate dog from cali lol
for the record i cant stand the fact that every song abuses this effect...
luckily some guy made this video:
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SocialNumb
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I think they said that in an interview with SoS when it first came out - but they later said that was a lie, and that it was autotune. [iirc!]
