How would you play "Bleed" Meshuggah??

Pablo333

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Ok so i checked theyre vid on youtube (GW lesson) and i thought it was (main opening riff )

D U D D D U D .... repeat etc.....

but im thinking it "could be"

D U D U D U D

D = downstroke U = upstroke


Any thoughts????
 
That's it. Start out really slow, and soon you'll be able to play it in your sleep. :)

Honestly ?? the fourth note is an upstroke? that messes with my thrash diseased brain lol

oh well shall give it a go thanks

Ahjteam i mentioned id seen the vid but thanks for linking it man
 
I suggest that you listen to the riff slowed down, even 20% helps, its a lot easier to hear it out how it is rhythmed (its in patterns of four hits something like xxx-x--xxx-x--xxx-x--xxx-x-- etc), the way you play it is more up to you. Play it like you find it easiest to do. In the video Fredrik plays it D U D D
 
Thanks man - i know the rhythm ok but it whether or not they do the 4th note as an up stroke - cause that seems easier but it feels weird
 
it's D U D U D U D U after about ten mins i got the "feel" of it - much easier than the 2 consecutive Downpicks - i sense some fast riffing getting recorded soon!!
 
I have my doubts about that shit. I worked a Meshuggah show and sat and talked some shit with Haake and watched this DVD he had filmed, also... there aint too many fuckers out there nailing that if they catch all the intricacies shot for shot.... guitar included. Good ol Marten speaks volumes on that vid.. its far more intense than people generally notice... there's shit going on that fails through the cracks a lot. As a general word: Meshuggah > you.
 
It's definitely played DUD U DUD U etc.... Tricky to get it to sound as tight and aggressive that way as DUD D DUD D is which is how I initially practiced it until realizing it was fucking inhumanly fast...

I've always wondered why Haake didn't play the kick part like RRL R LLR L RRL R LLR L etc... Heel toe for the double strokes with each foot so basically you are just playing a steady 8th note double bass roll with little double stroke accents... It's WAY more comfortable that way
 
I play it on guitar like I play it on drums.

Right foot = down stroke
Left foot = up stroke

RLR L RLR L
DUD U DUD U

DUDE!

+ 1

I play it to what ever the drummer is playing. If the drummer chooses to play; RLR R RLRL then I'm DUD D DUD. It should sound even nicer when you have a hard kicking drummer with a nicely micked up kick drum.
 
you can play that shit on drums erkan?
respect +10000

I can play that pattern, but I haven't given the song a shot... yet. I'm quite sure I can't play that song, let alone play drums at all. I never have time to practise, I suck ass balls (?)!

But yeah, I can play that pattern and it's extremely easy for me for some reason. I started practising that pattern before I heard Bleed actually, and when I heard Bleed, it triggered something in me that just kept practising that pattern a little now and then. Today, I can play that pattern at a fucking fast speed if I may say so myself, quite a bit faster than Bleed's tempo, and I can also hold it out for a decent amount of time.

About the "I've always wondered why Haake didn't play the kick part like RRL R LLR L RRL R LLR L etc... Heel toe for the double strokes with each foot so basically you are just playing a steady 8th note double bass roll with little double stroke accents... It's WAY more comfortable that way" F0RBIDDEN, I have to say that RLR L is also very easy and comfortable. All you need is a good technique in your right foot to hit 2 16th notes.

However, on patterns like RLR RLR RLR RLR (typical metal breakdown beat), I tend to like playing alternating like RLR LRL RLR LRL instead so yeah... I guess I'm for both ways :) If it works, it works, it's all individual.
 
Just wanted to say thanks for filling me in guys on how this is played - getting there slowly but surely - comfortable around 190bpm now

Will post a track in the rate my mix section in a week or so - house move is taking up all my recording time