I need a new 8 channel converter

Ermz

Ermz

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So I'm officially out of I/O after the arrival of the last piece of outboard here. I need a new converter to keep the love going!

My thoughts have always been on the Lynx Aurora, but has anything newer, better, or perhaps cheaper surfaced on the market since? I'm not looking to entirely set myself broke here, but at the same time I want a decent set of converters I can run tracks through confidently.
 
Ermz said:
So I'm officially out of I/O after the arrival of the last piece of outboard here. I need a new converter to keep the love going!

My thoughts have always been on the Lynx Aurora, but has anything newer, better, or perhaps cheaper surfaced on the market since? I'm not looking to entirely set myself broke here, but at the same time I want a decent set of converters I can run tracks through confidently.
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I haven't heard of anything new and groundbreaking Ermz as of recently. I have read nothing but great things about the Lynx converters though. I'd be interested to hear a comparison if you pick one up.

What is your current chain like?

-Joe
 
I'm in the very same position...unfortunately I don't have the money for lynx, apogee etc....
so my plan now is to get a digi 96i/o and use that for the less important stuff (cue mixes etc) to free more DA channels of the RME ADI8 pro.
I'd love to have another Apogee DA16x of course, but those things are soooo expensive ;)

anyway...might be an option for you too, to just free some of the good channels by putting cue mixes etc on less good and much cheaper converters
 
Yeah, I don't run cue mixes though! When I track, it's as a freelancer at a larger studio with no shortage of I/O. My ins and outs here are tied up solely with outboard gear I use for mixing now.

Joe, thanks for the heads up. That's a shame to hear. I still wonder about the Behringer ADA8000 winning the shoot-out on GS against the Lynx. I always wonder whether it's worth chancing and just grabbing one of those units. My current chain is basically just an RME Multiface straight to the outboard. Not stellar by any means, but I can't say I've noticed it impacting my work at all. I have wondered often whether the Opals would open up even more with better converters though. An Avocet has been on the back of my mind for some years now, especially as the pots on my M-patch 2 wear out and I can barely stand to turn the volume knob anymore.
 
Ermz said:
Yeah, I don't run cue mixes though! When I track, it's as a freelancer at a larger studio with no shortage of I/O. My ins and outs here are tied up solely with outboard gear I use for mixing now.

Joe, thanks for the heads up. That's a shame to hear. I still wonder about the Behringer ADA8000 winning the shoot-out on GS against the Lynx. I always wonder whether it's worth chancing and just grabbing one of those units. My current chain is basically just an RME Multiface straight to the outboard. Not stellar by any means, but I can't say I've noticed it impacting my work at all. I have wondered often whether the Opals would open up even more with better converters though. An Avocet has been on the back of my mind for some years now, especially as the pots on my M-patch 2 wear out and I can barely stand to turn the volume knob anymore.
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From what I remember, a good reason for many preferring the Behringer was due to a hyped high end that came through on those recordings. You are way more experienced than myself Ermz, but honestly, I would stay away from the Behringer given your quality of recordings and the recent monitors/gear you have acquired.

If the RME converters are decent, yet not ideal for you, I can't see you benefitting a ton from the Behringer stuff. While they are cheap, it might not be worth the dough. The Lynx sounds like a much more solid investment if you can afford them at the moment. They will most likely pay for themselves and you will use them for years to come IMO.

-Joe
 
J.DavisNJ said:
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If the RME pres are decent, yet not ideal for you, I can't see you benefitting a ton from the Behringer stuff.
-Joe
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the RME preamps are actually less than decent..the converters are really good though (eben the muliface ones)...I did the entire first Alestorm on a Multiface btw....
anyways....check the ADI8 line, they're really good.
 
Lasse Lammert said:
the RME preamps are actually less than decent..the converters are really good though (eben the muliface ones)...I did the entire first Alestorm on a Multiface btw....
anyways....check the ADI8 line, they're really good.
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Woops! I meant the converters...I'm assuming that is what Ermz was talking about in his post??

-Joe
 
Yeah I'll check out the ADI line. In fact one of the anniversary models came up for a steal on eBay a short while ago, but I didn't end up getting it. I kicked myself ever since. It was basically a way cheaper model with slightly reduced specs, like less dynamic range by a few dB.

Lasse, do you know whether the Multiface converters are much worse than the Multiface II?

EDIT: Fuck me, how's this looking? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RME-ADI-8-AE...ViewItemQQptZAU_Pro_Audio?hash=item3efcfc3b07
 
Ermz said:
Lasse, do you know whether the Multiface converters are much worse than the Multiface II?
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no idea, I only had the multiface I myself


what I'm using now is this one:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ADI8ProDS/

atm I'm only using the DA side of it though (I know, what a waste ;) ). damn, I've got 16channels of good quality AD lying about unused....I should get the 96io soon to hook them all up via lightpipe....but that's mean I need more preamps, lol.

well, anyways...I'm only using the Apogee for the AD side at the moment, but not because the RME isn't doing a good job, just because I'm running out of lightpipe connections for PT HD.....so it's time for a 96io for me...than I could finally use the AD of the RME again ;)


the one on ebay looks cool, too....I don't think you'd regret buying it.
 
Looks like a sweet unit, Lasse. It says the AE edition is just a cut down version, that has like 6 less dB on the AD stage. Might look into snapping it up if not many bet on it. Kinda hinges on Harry buying my Harley Benton cab too for me to get the money :lol:
 
Seriously Erm, if you can afford highend converter right now (btw Lynx isn't best solution imho, Mytek or AD16X or Lavry look better in term of specs), go with an RME ADI pro.
Of course if you need AES, ADI DD is way to go but I think ADI pro would work better with your actual setup (ADAT, D25).

Multiface vs Multiface II: better headphone outpout, volume knob for headphone outpout.

Lasse: too bad you run out of lightpipe because we have actually some sweat deal with ADI pro on France (used of course but take a look here).

Sorry Erm, european voltage.
 
tbh I dont think the 7dB headroom will make a big difference (at least not as long as you record metal in 44.1k), 111dB headroom should be enough.
what you should keep in mind though is the possibility that PT HD cards might drop in price soon and you might wanna get one...so it might be smart to perhaps go the aurora or apogee route directly and be done with it even for the case that you switch to HD and take that dildo out of your ass during mixing.
of course you could always connect the ADI8 via lightpipe, but you'd need at least a 96io which is more expensive than the RME and has less good converters.
 
I've concluded not to go the Digi route until they release the inevitable native offering. After their lack of any significant announcements at NAMM I just wrote them off the list entirely. This dildo is staying firmly rooted in my ass for a while yet.

My experiences with RME gear and drivers have been nothing but stellar. If I can get the AE unit, I will. I remember thinking a while back to something like this would suit my needs perfectly. Contrary to what you might read on here, I'm not really a gear snob or purist, I just want something decently functional that won't impede my work, and I highly doubt the AE will whatsoever.

Thanks guys.
 
on the studio i work on, we´ve got a Lynx Aurora 16 and sure there is some difference from my ADA8000 but its not that great. I used the ADA for some time there as IO to some outboard and it didnt make anything sound like crap. The ADA is actually much better than some presonus piece of crap they got there to record rehearsals.

btw the ada pres can be bypassed and be used as line ins...some minor modding needed tho´.
 
I'd go for the Behringer, and save up money for Lynx,Lavry etc. No need to spend that extra money to get in the mid-end section.

The RME that Lasse recommended was quite pricy, maybe you should wait??
 
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