I truly feel like an engineer when...

if it has anything to do with the state of Florida. ;)

there once was guy here in germany who was on welfare but lived in Miami.
the press named him "Miami Rolf".
the case started a big debate over here, ha ha....
don't know if it's that he's referring to, though.
 
Wow, good memory for redundant facts, Andy! ;)

"Florida Rolf" even has his own Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Rolf


I know a guy also named Rolf who was unemployed (also pocketing money from the job center). Every time they called him to show up, he had to hurry for the next flight Mallorca Germany.....
that probably helped remembering it.

oh, and i feel like an engineer, if my own guitars don't sound like complete shit.
 
I only truly feel like an engineer when I'm dealing with calculus, physics, and building prototypes or products to solve a real world problem. Not so much when I'm clicking away on a computer screen making "art."

Hahaha +1 mixing is a thousand times easier than any real world engineering.

Except for maybe bong engineering... hmm... :p
 
Hahaha +1 mixing is a thousand times easier than any real world engineering.

Except for maybe bong engineering... hmm... :p

I disagree, Mixing is soooo hard! I bought a book on mixing and I'm hoping that will at least help me understand the basics, but fuck me, it's dificult. But fun :rock:
 
Hahaha +1 mixing is a thousand times easier than any real world engineering.

Except for maybe bong engineering... hmm... :p

Having interned for 3 summers at a civil engineering firm, I really, really disagree. Real world engineering is all about plugging in the numbers to solve a problem - eventually you get good at it and it's like riding a bike.

Audio engineering is all about adapting to situations and trying to do something fresh and new everytime. I'd compare editing to traditional engineering, but mixing to architectural design if we're sticking with that metaphor.
 
Having interned for 3 summers at a civil engineering firm, I really, really disagree. Real world engineering is all about plugging in the numbers to solve a problem - eventually you get good at it and it's like riding a bike.

Audio engineering is all about adapting to situations and trying to do something fresh and new everytime. I'd compare editing to traditional engineering, but mixing to architectural design if we're sticking with that metaphor.

100% agree. Real world engineering is very black and white, while mixing is still very creative, and anything creative can have so many solutions, not just one. Then again, if you do work as an engineer you may just have adopted a one track mind which makes it so hard to fathom the mystery that is mixing :lol:
 
Engineering in our sense I find to be a misnomer. I'm not big on semantics though, so I just roll with it. As long as people get the meaning.

I'm sure both are difficult in their own ways. Audio Engineering is a mix of science and art though.. such a fine blend and so very hard to get right. There really is nothing easy about it. I've spent almost every day of the last 6 years obsessively chasing that rabbit, and only now have I even become open to the higher level processes needed to really get there. True engineering is done by the numbers. There are real world questions and real world solutions. Audio Engineering is about interpreting a solution to something that may or may not even be a problem. Everything is relative, interpretative, down to discretion, and on top of that you need to find the right blend of science to pull your arbitrary goals off.

Anyway thats about as well as I can word myself at 5am. The last few days have really thrown the sleeping pattern off. Well that and my precious Millennia just died, so I'm not feeling particularly at ease.
 
I'm sorry, guys, but working with high level calculus and physics is much, much more difficult work. Sure, once you're a professional engineer working for a civil engineering company, most of your problem solving is done by a computer, but try taking some engineering classes at a university and get back to me... especially electrical engineering, computer engineering, chemical engineering, etc. These are some of the most difficult degrees you can take at a university. Besides, it's not all punching numbers into a computer even after you've got your degree. People do design and build new things, you know...
 
I'm sorry, guys, but working with high level calculus and physics is much, much more difficult work. Sure, once you're a professional engineer working for a civil engineering company, most of your problem solving is done by a computer, but try taking some engineering classes at a university and get back to me... especially electrical engineering, computer engineering, chemical engineering, etc. These are some of the most difficult degrees you can take at a university. Besides, it's not all punching numbers into a computer even after you've got your degree. People do design and build new things, you know...

I honestly think it comes down to the individual to be fair. Theres absolutely nothing easy about engineering, but I personally find mixing harder. Now, Obviously I'm biased but If I had a degree in both fields I might have a different opinion, but what I like about engineering is you know there will be a solution thats perfect or at best, withing reasonable tolerance, while as Ermz said, Mixing is based on science and art, and while I know physically whats behind a mix, I find it hard to draw the parallel between the two.
But then again, you find engineering much harder. I think my opinion is based on my inexperience with audio engineering and mixing which is why I find that harder.