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:Wreath: said:
so you loathe riverside for being popular even though they bring nothing new to music and now you want everybody to love something as unoriginal as this? :Smug:

btw I dig this style of playing but this song is really nothing special... Not good, not bad - simply mediocre. Motorhead > I anytime...

now back to my dragonforce records :Smug:

i dont loathe riverside for being popular. i loathe riverside because theyre fucking awful AND pretentious enough to get everyone thinking theyre something more than just pseudo-progressive metal re-hash. i dont WANT everyone to love this new song...i frankly dont care. but its not pretending to be something it isnt...and what it is, is part of the reason Opeth for instance...even exists. the point is you all are a bunch of new-metal twerps who have no real sense of classic metal idioms or ideals, and anything which doesnt have folk passages, tons of keyboard atmosphere, or "70s prog" elements, you all think is lame now. youve all done yourselves a huge disservice at this point by raising the bar so high. you went from one extreme to the other people.

and of course motorhead beats this. when did i ever debate that? the point is, abbath and the gang could have easily set out to make Immortal pt. 2 but didnt, instead, they paid homage to why everyone is into this genre in the first place, and frankly did a pretty decent job too. its to evoke that old school mentality, not be mindblowing or groundbreaking musically. half you clowns claim to like venom, or bathory or celtic frost, but i doubt any of you REALLY do for any reason other than Mikael wears fucking t-shirts of them...since so many of you seem to hate this song, which is basically the exact same sound and principles as those classics.

so yes. GO BACK TO YOUR DRAGONFORCE, RIVERSIDE AND BEHEMOTH!
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
explain why.

I cant really give a technical standpoint from it to be honest. But i listened to it a few times and it just didnt grab me really. So i wont bother listening to it just because id rather listen to other things.

edit: ok, i can explain myself better. When i listen to music i love/like i get this feeling instantly as soon as i listen to it. Other times i will get a feeling where i think there could be something, but it wasnt instantly rewarding, so i will listen to it enough to make sure i get the most out of it. With that song( possibly not the album ) I felt nothing. It just sounded boring to me. I didnt experience what i wanted to. Again not a technical explination
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
i dont loathe riverside for being popular. i loathe riverside because theyre fucking awful AND pretentious enough to get everyone thinking theyre something more than just pseudo-progressive metal re-hash. i dont WANT everyone to love this new song...i frankly dont care. but its not pretending to be something it isnt...and what it is, is part of the reason Opeth for instance...even exists. the point is you all are a bunch of new-metal twerps who have no real sense of classic metal idioms or ideals, and anything which doesnt have folk passages, tons of keyboard atmosphere, or "70s prog" elements, you all think is lame now. youve all done yourselves a huge disservice at this point by raising the bar so high. you went from one extreme to the other people.

and of course motorhead beats this. when did i ever debate that? the point is, abbath and the gang could have easily set out to make Immortal pt. 2 but didnt, instead, they paid homage to why everyone is into this genre in the first place, and frankly did a pretty decent job too. its to evoke that old school mentality, not be mindblowing or groundbreaking musically. half you clowns claim to like venom, or bathory or celtic frost, but i doubt any of you REALLY do for any reason other than Mikael wears fucking t-shirts of them...since so many of you seem to hate this song, which is basically the exact same sound and principles as those classics.

so yes. GO BACK TO YOUR DRAGONFORCE, RIVERSIDE AND BEHEMOTH!


sometimes you do make sense... but not this time :Smug:

Generalising about people who don't seem to appreciate this average song (nobody claimed to 'hate' it iirc) will get you nowhere. It appears you treat this song like some kind of metal manifesto. Fact is stuff like that was done a million times - I'd agree with you if it was done with some superb class here, but this is decent at best, so quit overreacting...

and there was a good word for this that you use frequently... what was it...

oh wait, I remember - *yawn*
 
:Wreath: said:
sometimes you do make sense... but not this time :Smug:

Generalising about people who don't seem to appreciate this average song (nobody claimed to 'hate' it iirc) will get you nowhere. It appears you treat this song like some kind of metal manifesto. Fact is stuff like that was done a million times - I'd agree with you if it was done with some superb class here, but this is decent at best, so quit overreacting...

and there was a good word for this that you use frequently... what was it...

oh wait, I remember - *yawn*

oh please...youre always dying for a reason to disagree with me, this is no exception. im not treating this song as anything special. it really ISNT special. thats the point actually. it is what it is...and it achieves exactly what its meant to, thats the concept i was trying to get across. people were judging this track the same as they would some BRAND NEW material from a brand new band trying to do something different, which is like trying to judge a beauty contest while on acid. for what this is, they executed it as well as they could have. like im going to take a noob's word for it like yours on whats "decent at best". you can count on two hands how many "real" metal bands youve heard and appreciated.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
oh please...youre always dying for a reason to disagree with me, this is no exception. im not treating this song as anything special. it really ISNT special. thats the point actually. it is what it is...and it achieves exactly what its meant to, thats the concept i was trying to get across. people were judging this track the same as they would some BRAND NEW material from a brand new band trying to do something different, which is like trying to judge a beauty contest while on acid. for what this is, they executed it as well as they could have. like im going to take a noob's word for it like yours on whats "decent at best". you can count on two hands how many "real" metal bands youve heard and appreciated.

Frankly - I don't remember the last time I had an arguement with you here but I do remember some recent times I agreed with you and posted it, so you're exagerrating again :Smug: I'm not a troll and I have better things to do than haunting the likes of you or anybody else for that matter in a metal forum. And trying to push me into the 'nu metal shitbag' in order to discredit my opinion about the song makes me laugh... I'll just quote you for that: 'you don't know shit about me. you don't have a clue' :rolleyes:
 
:Wreath: said:
Frankly - I don't remember the last time I had an arguement with you here but I do remember some recent times I agreed with you and posted it, so you're exagerrating again :Smug: I'm not a troll and I have better things to do than haunting the likes of you or anybody else for that matter in a metal forum. And trying to push me into the 'nu metal shitbag' in order to discredit my opinion about the song makes me laugh... I'll just quote you for that: 'you don't know shit about me. you don't have a clue' :rolleyes:

is amnesia a hereditary thing?
 
:Wreath: said:
hmm ok so how about you help me out and refresh my memories? Or were you talking about yourself?

i dont know. i cant remember. :goggly:


edit: i actually dont care for this song very much. i just thought id have a little experimental fun with this thread. my apologies to anyone i offended. :Saint:
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
i dont know. i cant remember. :goggly:


edit: i actually dont care for this song very much. i just thought id have a little experimental fun with this thread. my apologies to anyone i offended. :Saint:

erh why did you write "edit"? You didn't edit your post... :u-huh: