IS IT TRUE?

BreathingShadow said:
i heard during the recording process of ghost reveries one of the employees at the recording studio read The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren to mikael and peter and they are now christians... i read it in a christian article about metal music
i spent 4 days with them in the studio while they recorded Ghost Reveries. i was there to record each member (except for the newly added keyboardist) for the Death tribute CD and i can tell you something about what i saw.... 5 guys busting their ass on music... and whoever wasn't recording was usually watching a football match. no reading sessions. the ONLY employee in the Studio was Jens.. the guy who recorded and mixed everything... and he was far too busy recording to do any extra-curricular religious reading.
 
Yeah but they're not rockstars like Opef.


They're kvlt. making money off your music is too christian.


I still think the Opeth boy sare somewhat indifferent to religion.
 
James Murphy said:
i spent 4 days with them in the studio while they recorded Ghost Reveries. i was there to record each member (except for the newly added keyboardist) for the Death tribute CD and i can tell you something about what i saw.... 5 guys busting their ass on music... and whoever wasn't recording was usually watching a football match. no reading sessions. the ONLY employee in the Studio was Jens.. the guy who recorded and mixed everything... and he was far too busy recording to do any extra-curricular religious reading.



sounds good to me. :wave: Thank you Mr. Murphy.
 
the_drip said:
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all year.

I won't get into your personal beliefs, but Talent has also been discussed here. God has nothing to do with it...a person's own hardwork and desire is what helps one become "talented"

The entire band have been passionate about music since their early teens, and have devoted themselves completely to it. God has nothing to do with it.

It's like hearing those morons after they win a super bowl, "I'd like to thank god for his blessing..yadda yadda." , nope you idiot, god had nothign to do with busting your ass at practice the last 3/4's of a year and for your team's superior game plan.

I'm not saying God doesnt' exist, I'm just saying he gets too much damned credit.


ok, I'm saying I don't believe in him. I don't care what you guys think. Just know that I htink whatever you think is dumb.

:rolleyes: "Talent" isn't some linear thing where if you're talented you make objectively good music and if you're not then you make objectively bad music, though. The only kind of talent you can quantify is technical ability, and, as anyone with half a brain and experience of Dream Theater knows, technical ability doesn't automatically mean good music. Therefore, the actual process of song writing (i.e. the melodies and rhythms used, and the manner in which they are arranged) must come from another source; how else do you explain, for example, that some musicians create simplistic, happy melodies, while others create forboding, complex ones?

The answer is that music (and in fact all art) is a reflection of the attitutes, beliefs and values of those responsible for its creation; in other words, their ideology. Before you try to dismiss this by saying "they just make music they like to hear, mang!" consider that it would be ridiculous to believe that different individuals' musical tastes just appear out of nowhere; obviously something has to influence what sounds they find pleasant, and which they find unpleasant. I believe that people seek out music which reflects their own ideology. This certainly explains why so many metal fans (especially in subgenres such as black metal) are socially frustrated, angry and alienated; metal is socially frustrated, angry and alienated music, so these sorts of people gravitate towards it.

With that established, it should become evident why Opeth becoming Christian would be a concern; their music, being a reflection of their own ideology, would be in for a drastic change if their ideology underwent a change so (presumably) radical as becoming Christian. And, given the ideology of many of Opeth's fans, this change may cause the music to become unpleasant to their ears.
 
The_Isle said:
Why does this have anything to do with anything?
I could care less about a bands religious beliefs - unless, possibly, if they're Scientologist(wacko).
Right you are, I was just curious :OMG:
 
polarity said:
:rolleyes: "Talent" isn't some linear thing where if you're talented you make objectively good music and if you're not then you make objectively bad music, though. The only kind of talent you can quantify is technical ability, and, as anyone with half a brain and experience of Dream Theater knows, technical ability doesn't automatically mean good music. Therefore, the actual process of song writing (i.e. the melodies and rhythms used, and the manner in which they are arranged) must come from another source; how else do you explain, for example, that some musicians create simplistic, happy melodies, while others create forboding, complex ones?

The answer is that music (and in fact all art) is a reflection of the attitutes, beliefs and values of those responsible for its creation; in other words, their ideology. Before you try to dismiss this by saying "they just make music they like to hear, mang!" consider that it would be ridiculous to believe that different individuals' musical tastes just appear out of nowhere; obviously something has to influence what sounds they find pleasant, and which they find unpleasant. I believe that people seek out music which reflects their own ideology. This certainly explains why so many metal fans (especially in subgenres such as black metal) are socially frustrated, angry and alienated; metal is socially frustrated, angry and alienated music, so these sorts of people gravitate towards it.

With that established, it should become evident why Opeth becoming Christian would be a concern; their music, being a reflection of their own ideology, would be in for a drastic change if their ideology underwent a change so (presumably) radical as becoming Christian. And, given the ideology of many of Opeth's fans, this change may cause the music to become unpleasant to their ears.


no retard, if you have NO talent. You simply aren't in a band. Boy bands thrown together by sony and Virgin records do not count. Those are not bands, they have no musical value at all.

Unless you're a savant, musicianship is something that develops and grows over time, thru hard work....I don't care how technically you play..there is a boundless number of aspects in music for you to take into account. YOu people pigeonhole everything into "emotional" and "technical". Those are stupid terms. Music is rarely one or the other. And alot of times it is neither.
 
the_drip said:
no retard, if you have NO talent. You simply aren't in a band. Boy bands thrown together by sony and Virgin records do not count. Those are not bands, they have no musical value at all.

Unless you're a savant, musicianship is something that develops and grows over time, thru hard work....I don't care how technically you play..there is a boundless number of aspects in music for you to take into account. YOu people pigeonhole everything into "emotional" and "technical". Those are stupid terms. Music is rarely one or the other. And alot of times it is neither.

way to completely ignore the crux of my post gg mang
 
a Band's attitudes and beliefs have nothing to do with teh quality of the music that they produce.

But it has nothing to do with a band's talent if they choose to write about satan, or fluffy bunnies.


Just because I didn't comment on every sentence you wrote doesn't mean I didn't read it. Maybe I agree'd with some of it? hmmm there's a thought.
 
Holy fucking hell guys, did James Murphy just post here?!
 
James Murphy said:
i spent 4 days with them in the studio while they recorded Ghost Reveries. i was there to record each member (except for the newly added keyboardist) for the Death tribute CD and i can tell you something about what i saw.... 5 guys busting their ass on music... and whoever wasn't recording was usually watching a football match. no reading sessions. the ONLY employee in the Studio was Jens.. the guy who recorded and mixed everything... and he was far too busy recording to do any extra-curricular religious reading.

saut said:
Holy fucking hell guys, did James Murphy just post here?!

yup, it appears so. You can usually find him in the Andy Sneap Forum.