ITT: i post observations from england

the first time I went to England I thought the Indian food was UNBELIEVABLE.

the second time I thought so for the first half of the week.

then I was like "wait a minute. I've been going to good Indian restaurants this whole time. that's not what a lot of Brits eat." so I went to a pub and got a chicken tikka masala there.

it was horrendous. tasted like it came out of a can.

so while I totally agree with Greg's post, I also want to say that I think we tend to self-select.
 
don't have time to write too much BUT me and the gf are on vacation and staying with her relatives near manchester. no fish and chips yet but the week is young.

alex, i too just found out that chicken tikka masala was not actually made in india but rather was made by indian immigrants in england so technically it is a national dish and not an import. WEIRD
 
exactly greg; i have a "curry cookbook" that is divided by cultures (trinidadian, south indian, japanese, pakistani, etc.) and there is a section "british" that includes things like chicken tikka masala.

truth is, most things we view as "indian food" were created or modified heavily by the colonial presence. vindaloo, for example, is actually an attempt to make a portuguese dish (from goa, the portuguese colony) and is supposed to be made with pork. "curries" and whatnot usually include things like tomato, hot pepper, etc. which were not in india thousands of years ago at all! so it's not like chicken tikka masala is TOTALLY NOT INDIAN and rogan josh is TOTALLY INDIAN. everything is just a hodgepodge of influences.
 
alright alright alright enough about indian food seriously, what souvenirs are you getting us? i would prefer a keychain. i think you should get alex SOCKS.
 
The first thing azal mentioned exists, not sure about the second one.

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