He pulled some handwritten notes out of his top pocket and read to me that the people who worked for the nuclear weapons freeze (which at that time was 80% of the U.S. population supported the freeze) were either K.G.B. duped or Soviet Agents. I said, that's from last month's "Reader's Digest." John Barron's piece and he said, no that's from my Intelligence files. Patty reassured me later that that was virtually one and the same thing. He virtually never read a book or very few although he stopped to read the "Reader's Digest" every month, all his life. At one point, she said that I know that what Dr. Caldicott is saying is correct, because I have a 1989 Pentagon document to prove it, and without looking at it, he said that's a forgery. I think it was one of the most shocking experiences of my life.