Joey (really) singing Only

[ironmaidenfan09]

the tour was announced long before Joey's return.

Only in Europe for a few select dates. They would have never been on the North American Carnage Tour if Bush or even Dan Nelson was on vocals. Even with Joey back Anthrax still is the opener and will have a shorter set than Slayer and Megadeth. If they never changed their sound and singers they would be playing ahead of Megadeth. On Clash of the Titans they were all pretty much equal, with Alice in Chains opening on most of the dates. But this is all BS, it doesn't really matter. It IS fun though to wonder what would have happened if they never changed their sound

 

[Thrashard]

Joeythrax built their fanbase and the success of SOWN was the result of excessive touring and the release of strong album after strong album throughout the Bella-era, no doubt about that and Bushthrax did a good job at erasing their fanbase with the release of weak album after weak album and the venues and crowds became smaller and smaller, in '98 they played in small s**tholes in front of 100 people, i was there.

 

[ironmaidenfan09]

Joeythrax built their fanbase and the success of SOWN was the result of excessive touring and the release of strong album after strong album throughout the Bella-era, no doubt about that and Bushthrax did a good job at erasing their fanbase with the release of weak album after weak album and the venues and crowds became smaller and smaller, in '98 they played in small s**tholes in front of 100 people, i was there.

YUP

I too saw them in a shithole in 98 i believe it was. There was only about 300 people there. Quite a difference from the 1993 performance where they sold out a 15,000 amphitheater. So sad. Hopefully things will pick back up for them

 

[spacebeer]

It'll never get back to the glory days but I think if they release a solid album they can at least play bigger (2.000 capacity) clubs again

 

[trickrtreat]

Divine Intervention was released by Slayer in 1995

It was 1994. BTW, the Live Intrusion DVD hits in August.

I'm surprised Anthrax, the pioneers of rap rock, didn't follow the Limp Bizkit formula in the 90's. I'm glad they didn't, but I think they would've been fairly popular. Didn't Machine Head have moderate success (or keep their financial heads above water) doing such?

 

[Social Distortion]

Untrue.

Divine Intervention was released by Slayer in 1995 and became their highest charting album ever. Everyone forgets about DI because it followed SitA, which was a classic, yet DI was very successful.

In 1998 Slayer released Diablous in Musica, which was a disappointment, yet it still charted high. It is probably the closest Slayer ever came to changing their sound. It was still successful, though not as successful as DI.

In 2001 Slayer released God Hates Us All, which despite having the misfortune to release on the same day as the 9/11 attacks, charted high. It was generally considered a return to form and sold more albums than DiM. It was successful as well.

Megadeth released Countdown to Extinction in 1992, which was their most successful album. Megadeth released Youthanasia in 1994, which was their fastest album to platinum status ever. In 1996 Megadeth released Cryptic Writings, which got to number 10 on the charts and had a single which charted higher than any Megadeth before it.

After that, Megadeth released Risk in 1998 which was a commercial and critical failure. This was Megadeth's most drastic change of sound and they paid the price for it.

Bottom line, your perception that "No metal band was selling records in the mid 90's except Metallica and Pantera." is patently false. Slayer, Megadeth and Metallica were all selling well. The only one of the big four that was not was Anthrax....

Care to guess why?

1994, 1997 and 1999. Get your facts straight. The only metal bands to sell millions of records in the mid 90's really were Pantera and Metallica.

 

[Social Distortion]

Didn't Machine Head have moderate success (or keep their financial heads above water) doing such?

The Burning Red was a success. Supercharger wasn't.

 

[ironmaidenfan09]

It was 1994. BTW, the Live Intrusion DVD hits in August.

I'm surprised Anthrax, the pioneers of rap rock, didn't follow the Limp Bizkit formula in the 90's. I'm glad they didn't, but I think they would've been fairly popular. Didn't Machine Head have moderate success (or keep their financial heads above water) doing such?

Machine Head has always done well in Europe. They even kind of went Nu Metal. They hired Ross Robinson to do such.

Thankfully their last 2 albums have slayed. The latest one is one of the best metal albums in a long time.

 

[ironmaidenfan09]

1994, 1997 and 1999. Get your facts straight. The only metal bands to sell millions of records in the mid 90's really were Pantera and Metallica.

Don't think anyone said Slayer or Megadeth were selling millions. But in the metal world you don't have to sell Millions to be successful. Metallica wasn't even metal in the mid 90's. Their albums were garbage, that goes to show you that record sales don't always equal quality.

Pantera is the only metal band to sell millions and be heavy as fuck.

Slayer, Megadeth and co. still had decent success in a horrible era. They powered through it and are not back at the top of their game and doing very well. Can't say the same about Anthrax

 

[Social Distortion]

Don't think anyone said Slayer or Megadeth were selling millions. But in the metal world you don't have to sell Millions to be successful. Metallica wasn't even metal in the mid 90's. Their albums were garbage, that goes to show you that record sales don't always equal quality.

Pantera is the only metal band to sell millions and be heavy as fuck.

Slayer, Megadeth and co. still had decent success in a horrible era. They powered through it and are not back at the top of their game and doing very well. Can't say the same about Anthrax

I absolutely agree!

Anyway, I don't think it's fair to say that only Anthrax wasn't succesful in the 90's. Metal just wasn't big in the mid 90's. Yes, Megadeth and Slayer were doing better than Anthrax, but not that much really.

 

[trickrtreat]

record sales don't always equal quality.

Well, they certainly won't now due to torrents, and there's no need to sell out since radio is becoming obsolete. I wish torrents had existed before SOWN to avoid all the nonsense Anthrax's core fanbase had to tolerate since '93.

 

[Anthrax_Mosher]

Slayer definitely changed their sound in the 90's.

 

[ironmaidenfan09]

Slayer definitely changed their sound in the 90's.

In the 90's slayer released Seasons In The Abyss, Divine Intervention, and Diabolus in musica. The only album that is much of a 'change' would be Diabolus in musica. But even that album is still a 'Slayer' album. I personally don't like that album that much. But they came back with God Hates Us All and put any doubt that they were going 'soft' to rest!