Just a crazy thought

[Yetti]

HAHAHA Nice one. yeah exaclty. You freaks, just discuss the fucking lyrics he posted. Why are you moaning about the release date when on the album it sounds like Warrel Dane has written a song about a close to home cancer problem, shockingly maybe even his own. *Prays to some random deity that it isn't.*

doesn't it occur to you that discussing a band's album on their message board before it's even on sale is fucking disrespectful?


yes, i did download the promo. and yes, i will be getting up before the crack of noon on the release date to go buy it.

 

[King Chaos]

doesn't it occur to you that discussing a band's album on their message board before it's even on sale is fucking disrespectful?

are you having a fucking laugh? We're talking about lyrics from the album, in anticipation... in what way is that disrespectful?

you must have something wrong in your head if you think discussion of the upcoming album is taboo on the band's forum. Check out the DT forum, before character people were trying to work out all the lyrics just from listening to the leaked album, and the band encouraged it. What's the point in getting in a hissy fit over people downloading your album and talking about it? People are going to fucking download it anyway... so i ask again what's the point?

I havn't heard it yet... and I will buy it the day it's available over here. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone posts an extract of lyrics from one song, and if it does bother you then Im sorry but you a hyper fucking sensitive.

 

[Yetti]

are you having a fucking laugh? We're talking about lyrics from the album, in anticipation... in what way is that disrespectful?

you must have something wrong in your head if you think discussion of the upcoming album is taboo on the band's forum. Check out the DT forum, before character people were trying to work out all the lyrics just from listening to the leaked album, and the band encouraged it. What's the point in getting in a hissy fit over people downloading your album and talking about it? People are going to fucking download it anyway... so i ask again what's the point?

I havn't heard it yet... and I will buy it the day it's available over here. It doesn't bother me one bit if someone posts an extract of lyrics from one song, and if it does bother you then Im sorry but you a hyper fucking sensitive.

who's having a hissy fit?

the point is, you ignorant twat, that it is fucking disrespectful to be discussing someone's commercial product on their own message board when it isn't even for sale yet, nor have free samples been posted. it's saying, "i have your cd and i haven't paid for what you worked so hard to put out." is that so hard to understand?

bitch, please. how is "well people are already gonna do it, so that makes ok" actually a valid argument?

if the DT members encourage it on their board, that's fine. it's their board. i haven't seen warrel or steve say anywhere on here that it's ok. if they do, than thats different.

is that too hard for you to comprehend, ya stupid chav?

 

[King Chaos]

who's having a hissy fit?

the point is, you ignorant twat, that it is fucking disrespectful to be discussing someone's commercial product on their own message board when it isn't even for sale yet, nor have free samples been posted. it's saying, "i have your cd and i haven't paid for what you worked so hard to put out." is that so hard to understand?

bitch, please. how is "well people are already gonna do it, so that makes ok" actually a valid argument?

if the DT members encourage it on their board, that's fine. it's their board. i haven't seen warrel or steve say anywhere on here that it's ok. if they do, than thats different.

is that too hard for you to comprehend, ya stupid chav?

To answer your "Who's having a hissy fit question" - the band according to you... because of this travesty of a thread

The only thing hard to comprehend is your complete and utter idiocy. This is a fucking metal forum. I dont think Nevermore are out with the primary goal of making money mate, and if you think so, please go stick something sharp in your eye.

Do you honestly think Nevermore see their music as commercial product? they will see it as an artistic outlet no doubt, distributed so they can proudly share the achievement of their product. Of course they want to make money off it, and they will either way. I said people are gonna download and it makes no difference because the only people downloading it are fucking geeks like you (quite a minority) who claim they'll buy it on release anyway. that's why it doesn't matter. Anyway, don't talk about disrespect or repsect, when you clearly have none.

Somehow I don't think Nevermore will find any disrespect in one of their true fans trying to insight a debate about the meaning of lyrics on the upcoming album. Once again, sort life you twat, nothing you said has one bit of logic behind it...

Could I ask the other people here: Am I ignorant because I disagree with yetti's views on this subject? :Smug:

 

[Manipulate the Pedia]

This is my new, stable username. All commentary will come from it in the future.


If you want to make the argument about it being disrespectful, that's different from going "LOL IT'S NOT OUT LOL." At least you're not in denial.

But I find it strange that a band would want to send out promo discs if they didn't want anyone discussing the release before it comes out. They are doing this precisely _because_ they want to generate pre-release buzz. What precisely is the difference between the reviewer in Rolling Stone discussing the lyrics, and a person on a messageboard? What precisely has a small dicked Atreyu-listening sellout at Rolling Stone magazine done in his life to deserve the right of hearing and discussing the new Nevermore before me and putting his postage stamp sized capsule review in an issue with Jessica Simpson on the cover? Because Rolling Stone gets more subscribers? Well, their subscription rates have been downspiraling for a long time, and in terms of exposure, a hundred small reviewers maybe makes one big one in terms of publicity. Internet gives you a thousand reviews and discussions of a disc, as opposed to two or three print ones that furthermore cost $5 each. By discussing it you're performing the same service that Rolilng Stone is, on a smaller level but a service none the less. If that service is immoral or pointless, stop sending your promos to Rolling Stone. But I don't see you complaining about Rolling Stone. As far as I see it, as soon as you send a promo out in order to generate buzz, I get to buzz, bottom line.

Also, objecting to the discussion of the lyrics on this board because it's disrespectful is in itself an attack on downloading the promo anyways, since it implies it to be something immoral that must be hidden, so at least just admit that for what it is

I'll stop discussing the lyrics before its out as soon as the members of Nevermore agree to stop illegally downloading porn.

 

[Yetti]

To answer your "Who's having a hissy fit question" - the band according to you... because of this travesty of a thread

really? where? point it out. most morons educated in the american public schools can see that i didn't write that. it's called reading comprehension.

The only thing hard to comprehend is your complete and utter idiocy. This is a fucking metal forum. I dont think Nevermore are out with the primary goal of making money mate, and if you think so, please go stick something sharp in your eye.

Do you honestly think Nevermore see their music as commercial product? they will see it as an artistic outlet no doubt, distributed so they can proudly share the achievement of their product. Of course they want to make money off it, and they will either way. I said people are gonna download and it makes no difference because the only people downloading it are fucking geeks like you (quite a minority) who claim they'll buy it on release anyway. that's why it doesn't matter.

what is your point? you make no fucking sense.

Anyway, don't talk about disrespect or repsect, when you clearly have none.

spanky, i guarantee you i will have far more respect from the long time members of this board.

Somehow I don't think Nevermore will find any disrespect in one of their true fans trying to insight a debate about the meaning of lyrics on the upcoming album.

then they should speak up.

 

[Yetti]

This is my new, stable username. All commentary will come from it in the future.

uh ok. who the fuck were you before?

But I find it strange that a band would want to send out promo discs if they didn't want anyone discussing the release before it comes out. They are doing this precisely _because_ they want to generate pre-release buzz. What precisely is the difference between the reviewer in Rolling Stone discussing the lyrics, and a person on a messageboard? What precisely has a small dicked Atreyu-listening sellout at Rolling Stone magazine done in his life to deserve the right of hearing and discussing the new Nevermore before me and putting his postage stamp sized capsule review in an issue with Jessica Simpson on the cover? Because Rolling Stone gets more subscribers? Well, their subscription rates have been downspiraling for a long time, and in terms of exposure, a hundred small reviewers maybe makes one big one in terms of publicity. Internet gives you a thousand reviews and discussions of a disc, as opposed to two or three print ones that furthermore cost $5 each. By discussing it you're performing the same service that Rolilng Stone is, on a smaller level but a service none the less. If that service is immoral or pointless, stop sending your promos to Rolling Stone. But I don't see you complaining about Rolling Stone. As far as I see it, as soon as you send a promo out in order to generate buzz, I get to buzz, bottom line.

show me the last time rolling stone reviewed a nevermore cd. they haven't. your argument is baseless.

Also, objecting to the discussion of the lyrics on this board because it's disrespectful is in itself an attack on downloading the promo anyways, since it implies it to be something immoral that must be hidden, so at least just admit that for what it is

no it isn't. i don't care who's downloaded it. if they don't pay for it when the cd finally comes out, then i do.

I'll stop discussing the lyrics before its out as soon as the members of Nevermore agree to stop illegally downloading porn.

got any proof that they do?

 

[King Chaos]

I really do just want to throw insults at you, but I wont, you idiot. My point made perfect sense, and the fact that you insulted my comprehension and followed it with that just proves, you are an absolute idiot. And I wasn't saying people don't respect you (people have respect for all kinds of arseholes these days), I was saying you have no respect yourself for others, as you wont even contribute to the buzz (as the other guy correctly referred to it), except someones opt view on the discussion of an artistic product prior to it's commercial birthing and you won't wait for its birthing before listening to the complete package as it should have been.

If the people here do respect a complete moron like you, that doesn't even understand the premise of a metal artist's interaction with his output, then I'm out of here... or Ill just troll this shit hole. Fucking people today, I sware...

 

[TheDreamingMind]

I can't quite remember, but does all this bullshit happen everytime Nevermore are about to release a record? No wonder the band members avoid this board like the plague.

 

[Yetti]

I really do just want to throw insults at you, but I wont, you idiot. My point made perfect sense, and the fact that you insulted my comprehension and followed it with that just proves, you are an absolute idiot. And I wasn't saying people don't respect you (people have respect for all kinds of arseholes these days), I was saying you have no respect yourself for others, as you wont even contribute to the buzz (as the other guy correctly referred to it), except someones opt view on the discussion of an artistic product prior to it's commercial birthing and you won't wait for its birthing before listening to the complete package as it should have been.

If the people here do respect a complete moron like you, that doesn't even understand the premise of a metal artist's interaction with his output, then I'm out of here... or Ill just troll this shit hole. Fucking people today, I sware...

it made no sense in the context of our argument. it's not that i don't have respect for others, it's that i don't have respect for all this tripe you are posting. as for my lack of "contributing to the buzz", you have no clue what you're talking about. just because i don't sit and post on this board telling people to buy the album doesn't mean i'm not contributing to the buzz. i don't understand a metal artist's interaction with his output? you're fucking dense.

 

[King Chaos]

for fucksake you are telling other people not to contribute to "the buzz" on the bands fucking forum!!! I dont give a fuck what you do in your spare time you ape, it is of no relevence! It's publicity to let us speak about issues in build up to the release. No music is being exhibited, so it is no way disrespectful.

The paragraph you appear to find 'nonsensicle' was entirely to do with this argument, because you say it is disrespectful to talk about a bands output before it is commercially available (before the band is making money off it, is exactly what you were talking about). That is what enraged me in the first place. My paragraph is directly linked, giving you some of what should be obvious, psychological insight to a metal band members intentions and pleasures in releasing an album. If you couldn't see that then what the fuck are you doing still standing infront of me?

You only say its tripe because you know you were completely wrong now, and your pretending to be ignorant to mine and Manipulate the pedia's words to try and not look like an idiot. Anyone with half a brain cell can see that. So just go for a walk mate, try not to let your retarded contribution get you down.

 

[Manipulate the Pedia]

The nitpick over the magazine itself is immaterial and obviously a logical sidestep. Replace "Rolling Stone" with "media outlet of your choice that does review Nevermore" and then attack the argument.

Previously I was posting as a guest, that is all.

You proved my point; the fact that you object to the lyrics is rooted more in your disdain for particular downloading activities, and thus the lyric argument will hinge on that.

As for the porn, I guess you must have missed that. That just makes me more HARDCORE then, anyways.

To further complicate, I will now state that your convictions lack definition and form. To see the light is the purest form of reward. Hopefully you will be next in line for this reward. To encourage this, beg to the gods, "Time, the healer, the great conceler, please salvage my soul!"

 

[ferlusa]

READER 1: I would be more surprised if you could count. You paint the sky in obsidian lies. I can see the path you never thought to follow.

To further complicate, I will now state that your convictions lack definition and form. To see the light is the purest form of reward. Hopefully you will be next in line for this reward. To encourage this, beg to the gods, "Time, the healer, the great conceler, please salvage my soul!"

This thread became quite interesting. I have to admit I love the way you finish your posts quoting Nevermore lyrics

 

[Dead_Lioness]

I can't quite remember, but does all this bullshit happen everytime Nevermore are about to release a record? No wonder the band members avoid this board like the plague.

 

[Satans_Mom]

"Could I ask the other people here: Am I ignorant because I disagree with yetti's views on this subject? "

No, healthy debate.


"I'll stop discussing the lyrics before its out as soon as the members of Nevermore agree to stop illegally downloading porn."



"I can't quite remember, but does all this bullshit happen everytime Nevermore are about to release a record? No wonder the band members avoid this board like the plague."

Yep, lotsa scrapping, and most of it's quite enertaining.

 

[TheDreamingMind]

Not entirely sure how to take that response

 

[Dead_Lioness]

Not entirely sure how to take that response

..that I agree

 

[Matt Lee]

you must have something wrong in your head if you think discussion of the upcoming album is taboo on the band's forum. Check out the DT forum, before character people were trying to work out all the lyrics just from listening to the leaked album, and the band encouraged it. What's the point in getting in a hissy fit over people downloading your album and talking about it? People are going to fucking download it anyway... so i ask again what's the point?

You must have missed the part where the official DT and Mike Portnoy forums were SHUT DOWN for several days because people kept disregarding the request that the new album not be discussed before it's release. DT has never encouraged discussion of leaked material. So you clearly have no idea what you're talking about...and you're probably high.