Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Fair enough. It pisses me off when people suggest that an entire race of human beings should be eradicated.
Kevin Rudd's lies...post them here
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Fair enough. It pisses me off when people suggest that an entire race of human beings should be eradicated.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Ok, that's a bit better. But it's not their ancestors. The "stolen generation" was going on until the middle of the 1970s. That was less than a generation ago.
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
Icarus
Shamone
*sigh* This board used to be such a nice place too. Im all for activity on the forum but these latest "additions" arent helping. I think id rather go back to a boring forum.
Spiff
I have the power
Sorry guys, my fault, I had to start the Countdown to the Election thread... but things were going OK until a couple of people stuck their noses in.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
No need to apologise Spiff. It's been pretty healthy really. I can see Ravendark's point about me being and arrogant and holier than thou (coz I can be), but I don't believe I've ever been an ignorant bigot.
Why should we or our gov apoligose for the actions and polices of a past government and generation?
It is not apologising for these actions; it is saying that he is sorry it happened is something Howard finds so difficult.
The problems that the policies of Australian governments created through the major part of the 20th Century still remain. Passive welfare, endemnic susbstance abuse, violence, dispossession from the economy, almost every aboriginal family affected by the forced removal of children from their parents. How can any form of reconciliation occur without recognition of this.
The term stolen generations is incredibly apt. Practices of removing children often without warning was allowed because until 1967 Aborigines were considered wards of the state, not citizens. These are children of mixed-race mind you, not full-blood aborigines, nor white children, but only those of mixed-blood. It is eugenic; it is despicable.
There is a difference between admitting guilt and expressing shame.
How is it at all helpful to say it is the fault of the previous generation and government and that we are blameless? Sure we have no guilt, but how would you feel, as a member of a downtrodden race whom there had been a conscious effort to help die out, if the succeeding generations of the perpetrators were quite happy to forget and disown the past of their society? And all of this while your people continue to live in 3rd world conditions.
The problems that the policies of Australian governments created through the major part of the 20th Century still remain. Passive welfare, endemnic susbstance abuse, violence, dispossession from the economy, almost every aboriginal family affected by the forced removal of children from their parents. How can any form of reconciliation occur without recognition of this.
The term stolen generations is incredibly apt. Practices of removing children often without warning was allowed because until 1967 Aborigines were considered wards of the state, not citizens. These are children of mixed-race mind you, not full-blood aborigines, nor white children, but only those of mixed-blood. It is eugenic; it is despicable.
There is a difference between admitting guilt and expressing shame.
How is it at all helpful to say it is the fault of the previous generation and government and that we are blameless? Sure we have no guilt, but how would you feel, as a member of a downtrodden race whom there had been a conscious effort to help die out, if the succeeding generations of the perpetrators were quite happy to forget and disown the past of their society? And all of this while your people continue to live in 3rd world conditions.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Dän;6222794 said:
Governments should apologise for the indiscretions of the past. That's part of the responsibility they take on when they are elected. Unless you also believe that the current Japanese government shouldn't apologise for the war crimes committed against POWs during WW2, and Pope John Paul II shouldn't have felt the need to apologise on behalf of the Catholic Church for not censuring the Nazis. But again, I think individuals should feel sorry that it happened, but not necessarily feel as it it was their fault. Because it wasn't.
It seems a little like the PC bullshit over christmas and easter etc
My main beef is people disowning the issue without even really knowing what it is. It is fairly gross actually to try and have primary school aged children involved in a display like that without any sort of context or understanding.
My main beef is people disowning the issue without even really knowing what it is. It is fairly gross actually to try and have primary school aged children involved in a display like that without any sort of context or understanding.
Goreripper
Metal as fuck
Lord Tim
That guy from LORD
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
What's even sneakier about it is they don't even advise the parents of what's going on, they just spring that shit at an assembly before lunch on the day. Very few kids under the age of 12 are likely to question it at all, and even fewer would risk punishment at school and/or at home by blatantly refusing and telling teachers to fuck off. They're lucky I'm not a parent because if they pulled that shit on my child there'd be serious fireworks.
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