Kirk Hammett

[Hammer Bart]

If you think your friend is wrong for liking Hammet better, well...... remember the concept of opinion?
There is no rule that says "you shall prefer Loomis over Hammett". J's friend if you read this, don't get talked into someone else's opinion.

I can imagine someone listening to Nevermore with an open mind and not liking it as much as Metallica. Even the guitar solos.

No offence J, but reading your last post it seems to me you want your friend to play the things that you like. You go play what you like and let your friend play what he likes. Don't be a tyrant to your friends.

 

[jamesboyd]

oh my god loomis is soooo good etc etc........ pfftt wrong forum kiddies

If ya wanna get in a pissing contest there are a lot of people that (imo) technically destroy loomis.... so what!!

jeez.................... wow it must suck to be kirk, his vibrato is soooo terrible and he only play's 12th pos E blues with a wah, he totally sucks man, pftttt.

back to school.

 

[J the TyranT]

Could always count on Ether to at least "get" the thick of a post, and a whole slew of Metallica fans, to... well.. not.

And yeah, when you're a "guitarist" but allll you do is 12th pos E blues.. that DOES suck.

Might as well be an actor with ONE character, or a painter who can ONLY paint a cypress tree over and over again.

Architect with one blueprint... see where this is going? There's such a thing as broadening a horizon...

 

[Insilden_The Shred]

you mentioned your friend wasn't a very prominate guitarist... well maybe you should let him work up to the technical skill of Kirk and perhaps by the time he gets there or resonably decent he'll have more desire to improve and look into more technical players...

when I fisrt started playing guitar all I did was play Metallica... and imo they are an incredible band to learn all the basics of metal from. Even if he does choose to acknowledge Loomis as a better player how is that gonna help his playing right now? hes still gotta go through the steps and if he chooses when he gets to that point he wants to take it to the next level, awesome... he can come to you and say... So how about that Loomis guy?

Let him keep looking up to Kirk... Kirk is the reason I started playing, he was my hero once too and I certainly didn't want to hear anybody put him down...

and there are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy worse ppl to look up to, and no shortage of them either.


Technical DOES NOT always equal better anyway... need I saw more then Michael Angelo?

 

[Tym_ex]

And yeah, when you're a "guitarist" but allll you do is 12th pos E blues.. that DOES suck.

That's complete bullshit. I'm very much into fusion / jazzrock and from that standpoint the metal genre is very simple music. If you'd compare Loomis to say Allan Holdsworth, you could say "well Loomis only plays some triad sweeps mixed with dimished and chromatic lines, that really sucks! If you're a guitar player you better play over chord changes and improvise your leads, how pathetic to play the same lead over and over again!". This is how you're talking, from your point of reference, think about that for a minute.

For the record, I love Loomis for what he does! I also love Hammett for what he has done.

 

[Mendel]

well technique is not the most importat thing and IMO you can't compare Hamett with Loomis.

Hamett was way before loomis and hamett couldnt been influenced by becker or so whatever cause jesus christ. .hammet is in metallica.. . it's just soo completely different from what loomis is doing. hammet has his own feel of music and shred and so does loomis. it's like comparing malmsteen to holdsworth.

 

[Insilden_The Shred]

If you're a guitar player you better play over chord changes and improvise your leads, how pathetic to play the same lead over and over again!"

ohhh... ya there are guitar players that can probably play things play things Yngwie can't or might have a hard time with... but one thing I really like about him is that he dosn't write leads either... I'm not to sure about his older work, but almost every lead you hear on his albums are one take improv... and if there is a little scratch here and there he'll leave it... he won't go back 100 times so that its flawless. Thus capturing a moment. Some of which he plays reasonably similar live and some he dosn't.

So if ya wanna really talk about technical perhaps you shouldn't even site guiter players but rather focus more on am over all knowledge of the instrument and musical theory... You'll probably never get any more technically advanced then when ya reach a level where without even thinking about it you know exactly whats gonna come out and accept the imperfections as unique to the moment ... as opposed to a guy that can just play the chop flawlessly.

 

[ThatGuitarGuy]

Kirk Hammet is the best!!!!











































...at turning on his wah and having a seizure with his foot!

 

[Insilden_The Shred]

^

 

[J the TyranT]

That's the only point Im making... fuck Metallica, Im not talking about any contribution to Metallica or the lack thereof. Im talking about advancement and knowledge of theory and fretboard mechanics and what not. And right, I could've mentioned MacAlpine, Henderson, Gambale, Holdsworth, Helmerich, etc etc, but Im just making the point of doing something beyond being the one-trick-pony.

Some guys wont get that point
Some guys are fanboys.

J

 

[No More Beers]

i think hammett is much better than loomis











using wah wah

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

Some guys wont get that point
Some guys are fanboys.

J

Some guys like to bitch because their thread didn't turn out how they wanted it too.

Seriously, get over it. Other people are more open-minded then you are.

 

[silverwulf]

And yeah, when you're a "guitarist" but allll you do is 12th pos E blues.. that DOES suck.

[sarcasm]

Yeah, because bluesy players suck. Like Hendrix...man did he suck...

[/sarcasm]

 

[Insilden_The Shred]

I think Hammett's inability to advance any further technically is directly related to his inability to grow a real mustache as opposed to that pre-prepubescent fuzz he would like to think looks cool.

 

[Nuk3m]

Tell him to check out Muhammed from Necrophagist, and after that if he still thinks that sellout monkey with a guitar is better then tell him he is wasting alot of oxygen, oxygen that could be going to people who are worth it...

OXYGEN STEALER!!

 

[J the TyranT]

True, I forgot about those guys. They're pretty fuckin insane.

 

[Ermz]

If you'd compare Loomis to say Allan Holdsworth, you could say "well Loomis only plays some triad sweeps mixed with dimished and chromatic lines, that really sucks!

That's so true.

Holdsworth pretty much dominates every guitarist mentioned here both creatively and technically. His style of playing the guitar is unique and unmatched, IMHO. It's kind of weird hearing Thordendal try to impersonate him but fail dismally.

Kirk is a new level of generic shit. I've hated him since I first heard him solo. He needs to get that wah pedal and permanently graft it in his ass, then get someone to educate him on how there's more to the world than pentatonics.

Loomis owns metal. Technically, I think Loomis would dominate Kirk... and even creatively. Kirk's stuff just sounds like the same unmemorable crap over and over again. His solos don't fit within the context of the songs whatsoever. Gah, sickening... blahhh.

 

[the phish]

That's so true.

Kirk's stuff just sounds like the same unmemorable crap over and over again. His solos don't fit within the context of the songs whatsoever. Gah, sickening... blahhh.

I agree with the first part of the statement, but pentatonics or not, i do think his solos fit within songs. Ill give him that.

 

[LydonB]

yeah, but yngwie isn't anywhere near as creative as loomis is as far as sweeping, i get bored of yngwie very quickly, and i cant stand him live lol, whats with the constant kick towards the crowd, everytime 5th time he hits a chord?!?

lol...yeah...i love Yngwie, but live is he pretty boring after the 2nd song.

 

[Ermz]

Yngwie has written a second song?