Loose Change Conspiracy Theory

[fah-q]

I must ask you...why do you like Israel? Is there any reason?

I am not a big fan of Israel. I'm just an Irish/Native American guy from upstate NY.

I also remember more than the last 3 weeks of news. Israel has been putting up with suicide bombers and muslim terrorists for years. When I say years, I don't mean 2 or 3.

That and, I like a good arguement. You seem to know your shit so, I stayed engaged. Neither of us are going to change the other's viewpoint. It was fun nonetheless.

 

[Patrick R.]

I am not a big fan of Israel. I'm just an Irish/Native American guy from upstate NY.

I also remember more than the last 3 weeks of news. Israel has been putting up with suicide bombers and muslim terrorists for years. When I say years, I don't mean 2 or 3.

That and, I like a good arguement. You seem to know your shit so, I stayed engaged. Neither of us are going to change the other's viewpoint. It was fun nonetheless.

Well that is the thing...you need to put your wit on something other then Israel...I mean, it is hard to defend Israel these days.

 

[fah-q]

Well that is the thing...you need to put your wit on something other then Israel...I mean, it is hard to defend Israel these days.

Come on Patrick. You act as if Israel is the only one throwing punches. It isn't Israel's fault that the terrorists don't have an airforce. People are dying in Israel from the Syrian and Iranian supplied rockets. From watching CNN, you would only think that Lebanese (sp?) were dying.

 

[Patrick R.]

Come on Patrick. You act as if Israel is the only one throwing punches. It isn't Israel's fault that the terrorists don't have an airforce. People are dying in Israel from the Syrian and Iranian supplied rockets. From watching CNN, you would only think that Lebanese (sp?) were dying.

Why do you think Israel has an air force? Perhaps billions of US tax dollars maybe? I mean, Israel is a nation that attacked the United States of America...the same America that has protected that terrorist nation for decades. It is simple...both American and Israeli leaders will be put on trial by the world's leaders once both of our military might is destroyed.\

You are correct…Hezbollah has shot some rockets at northern Israel in response to the destruction of Lebanon. It is the Israelis fault, they have been terrorizing their neighbors for decades and I still don’t see why you stick up for them…are you Jewish? Do you have genetic ties with those people? I really can’t see any other logical explanation for your support for that nation.

 

[fah-q]

Why do you think Israel has an air force? Perhaps billions of US tax dollars maybe? I mean, Israel is a nation that attacked the United States of America...the same America that has protected that terrorist nation for decades. It is simple...both American and Israeli leaders will be put on trial by the world's leaders once both of our military might is destroyed.\

You are correct…Hezbollah has shot some rockets at northern Israel in response to the destruction of Lebanon. It is the Israelis fault, they have been terrorizing their neighbors for decades and I still don’t see why you stick up for them…are you Jewish? Do you have genetic ties with those people? I really can’t see any other logical explanation for your support for that nation.

No Pat, I am not Jewish or of Israeli descent. I am Irish and Native American. I am defending Israel's right to vanquish terrorists. The only influences in my viewpoint are right/wrong and good/bad.
Terrorists = bad.

Israel has an airforce because they are a country. hezbollah does not because they are terrorists. Yes, it is that simple.

You can blame the US for arming Israel all you want. It is other terrorist countries (Iran Syria) that are supplying these terrorists (Hezbollah) with rockets and other weapons. Who do you think is more culpable?

How many rockets have the Lebanese army fired? I haven't heard a whole lot about the Lebanese army or their participation. Is that because the Lebanese don't want these terrorists in their country?

I can't believe you think that Israel has been terrorizing their neighbors for years. You are absolutely blind to the truth. You can support whomever you want but, please represent the truth a little better.

I am curious, exactly which leaders in the US and Israel will be put on trial and what will they be charged with? What exactly has the US done besides sell our old weapons to them?

Are you sore because the US has not stopped Israel? Guess what. Israel ain't our fuckin' country. We can't tell them what to do. I mean, WTF, which way do you want it? Is it America, sit on your hands, stay out of Iraq, don't bother Syria, Iran and North Korea? Or is it, America, make Israel, Iran, Syria and North Korea behave. You can't have it both friggin' ways.

Have a nice day.

 

[Patrick R.]

No Pat, I am not Jewish or of Israeli descent. I am Irish and Native American. I am defending Israel's right to vanquish terrorists. The only influences in my viewpoint are right/wrong and good/bad.
Terrorists = bad.

Ok I guess all of those Americans on the USS Liberty and those Americans that were killed when Israel tried to blow up American installations in Egypt were ‘terrorist’ right? If by your logic terrorist = bad then Israel is the worse ‘nation’ on the planet!

Come on, you are still bringing up this nonsense that the Israelis are fighting terrorist? Well then why have more children died then terrorist? Damn, the Israeli government can’t tell the difference between a power plant and Hezbollah targets?

I have never meet a Native American that support's Israel the way you do…in fact the only non Jews that I know of to support Israel above everything are the ones that are paid money to do so and if they don’t the money goes against them, so they pretty much will be pro Israel zealots…(Senators, Representatives, hell even all of the post war presidents).

Israel has an airforce because they are a country. hezbollah does not because they are terrorists. Yes, it is that simple.

Israel has an air force because of American tax dollars…you know those F 16 jets and Blackhawk helicopters? Yeah, they were supplied to Israel by the United States and guess what? Even more military supplies are flowing to Israel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/22/w...08772835d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

If Hezbollah are terrorist then what does that make Israel, a nation that was founded on Zionist terrorism? Remember the King David Hotel? Yeah, Zionist blew it hell…this is just one small example of Zionist terrorism.

You can blame the US for arming Israel all you want. It is other terrorist countries (Iran Syria) that are supplying these terrorists (Hezbollah) with rockets and other weapons. Who do you think is more culpable?

Has either one of those two countries attacked the United States of America? Have they blew up American installations in Egypt? Have they attacked any of our ships? No. Has Israel done both of these things? Yes they have.

The thing is those two countries aren’t a threat to Israeli’s existence and they have no desire to destroy Israel…that is all Zionist propaganda, the retaliation Israel would give to either of those two countries would be devastating and they know that…who has an estimated 200 hydrogen bombs? That’s right, Israel.

How many rockets have the Lebanese army fired? I haven't heard a whole lot about the Lebanese army or their participation. Is that because the Lebanese don't want these terrorists in their country?

The Lebanese want Israeli aggression to stop and perhaps they would like their power plants and roads back that the Israelis destroyed and no, support for Hezbollah has grown because of Israeli aggression.

I can't believe you think that Israel has been terrorizing their neighbors for years. You are absolutely blind to the truth. You can support whomever you want but, please represent the truth a little better.

Ho Ho…you can’t believe that I think the Israelis have been terrorizing their neighbors for years? Well what do you call the Israeli war of ‘Independence’ that expelled over 700,000 Palestinians from their homeland through sheer terror and mass murder?

What do you call Israelis expulsion of over 80,000 Syrians from the Golan Heights.

What do you call Israelis brutal military occupation over the Arabs in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank?

What do you call Israel’s first invasion of Lebanon that killed over 15,000 Lebanese and destroyed billions of dollars in property damage? I could go on and on.

I am curious, exactly which leaders in the US and Israel will be put on trial and what will they be charged with? What exactly has the US done besides sell our old weapons to them?

The United States has been breaking international law for decades, the only reason why our ‘leaders’ haven’t been brought to justice is because we are to powerful at the moment but all of that is changing and it is only a matter of time before the enemies get a hold of our politicians…who knows, they may commit suicide before that happens, it has been that way throughout history…Mark Anthony, Cleopatra, Hannibal, Adolf Hilter, etc etc.

Are you sore because the US has not stopped Israel? Guess what. Israel ain't our fuckin' country. We can't tell them what to do. I mean, WTF, which way do you want it? Is it America, sit on your hands, stay out of Iraq, don't bother Syria, Iran and North Korea? Or is it, America, make Israel, Iran, Syria and North Korea behave. You can't have it both friggin' ways.

Have a nice day.

You are right, Israel isn’t our country, so why me dear fah q so why have we been supporting them with diplomacy and military aid since the very beginning even thought they defy us and attack us? Might it be the overwhelming influence of Jews in the government for the past couple of decades…maybe the AIPAC and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations? But of course…their campaign contributions are essential for these politicians…without it their career is toast.

The reason why there is so much turmoil in the world is because most of the world looks at Israel’s behavior in the Middle East with disgrace…most notably their brutal treatment to the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Most of the world wants them to with drawl except for the Likud and the Republican/Democratic party in the United States…can most of the world be wrong?

 

[fah-q]

Ok I guess all of those Americans on the USS Liberty and those Americans that were killed when Israel tried to blow up American installations in Egypt were ‘terrorist’ right? If by your logic terrorist = bad then Israel is the worse ‘nation’ on the planet!
My bullshit meter is pinned. Muslims invented terrorism. Weren't those muslims that murdered jews at 72 Olympics?
Come on, you are still bringing up this nonsense that the Israelis are fighting terrorist? Well then why have more children died then terrorist? Damn, the Israeli government can’t tell the difference between a power plant and Hezbollah targets?

I have never meet a Native American that support's Israel the way you do…in fact the only non Jews that I know of to support Israel above everything are the ones that are paid money to do so and if they don’t the money goes against them, so they pretty much will be pro Israel zealots…(Senators, Representatives, hell even all of the post war presidents).

My ancestry has nothing to do with my view on the world. Logic and reason are where I draw my views and ideas. I am predisposed to thinking a certain way because I am Native American? Where the hell are you coming from?

Israel has an air force because of American tax dollars…you know those F 16 jets and Blackhawk helicopters? Yeah, they were supplied to Israel by the United States and guess what? Even more military supplies are flowing to Israel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/22/w...08772835d&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss Strange, nowhere in this article does it say anything about Iran supplying Hezbollah with missles. Could that be because the NY Times is a leftist fish-wrap?

If Hezbollah are terrorist then what does that make Israel, a nation that was founded on Zionist terrorism? Remember the King David Hotel? Yeah, Zionist blew it hell…this is just one small example of Zionist terrorism.
For every example of alleged zionist terrorism, I could give you a dozen instances of Muslim terrorism. Give it a rest, this is getting old.

Has either one of those two countries attacked the United States of America? Have they blew up American installations in Egypt? Have they attacked any of our ships? No. Has Israel done both of these things? Yes they have. Who are you trying to convince here? You or me?

The thing is those two countries aren’t a threat to Israeli’s existence and they have no desire to destroy Israel…that is all Zionist propaganda, the retaliation Israel would give to either of those two countries would be devastating and they know that…who has an estimated 200 hydrogen bombs? That’s right, Israel.
The point is not that either country is a threat. The point is that they (the muslim terrorists) won't stop killing jews. Stop focusing on the the past 4 weeks and look at the big picture. This isn't about kidknapped soldiers. It is about years and years of being antagonized.

The Lebanese want Israeli aggression to stop and perhaps they would like their power plants and roads back that the Israelis destroyed and no, support for Hezbollah has grown because of Israeli aggression. Horseshit. If support for Hezbollah has grown, where the fuck is the Lebanese military? Of course the Lebanese want this to stop. If my city was being bombed because terrorists were there, I would want it to stop too!

Ho Ho…you can’t believe that I think the Israelis have been terrorizing their neighbors for years? Well what do you call the Israeli war of ‘Independence’ that expelled over 700,000 Palestinians from their homeland through sheer terror and mass murder?

What do you call Israelis expulsion of over 80,000 Syrians from the Golan Heights. I call this a good start.

What do you call Israelis brutal military occupation over the Arabs in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank? Who's land is it?

What do you call Israel’s first invasion of Lebanon that killed over 15,000 Lebanese and destroyed billions of dollars in property damage? I could go on and on. When was this first invasion?

The United States has been breaking international law for decades, the only reason why our ‘leaders’ haven’t been brought to justice is because we are to powerful at the moment but all of that is changing and it is only a matter of time before the enemies get a hold of our politicians…who knows, they may commit suicide before that happens, it has been that way throughout history…Mark Anthony, Cleopatra, Hannibal, Adolf Hilter, etc etc.
Wow, this is some delusional shit. When in doubt, compare the US to Nazi Germany. You are tipping your hand. I do however like the Mark Anthony reference. You think he is popping J-Lo in the butt?


You are right, Israel isn’t our country, so why me dear fah q so why have we been supporting them with diplomacy and military aid since the very beginning even thought they defy us and attack us? Might it be the overwhelming influence of Jews in the government for the past couple of decades…maybe the AIPAC and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations? But of course…their campaign contributions are essential for these politicians…without it their career is toast. You could write a book about all of the countries we have supported with diplomacy and military aid. Israel is one of many customers.
What is the weapon of choice for your friends in the Taliban? Those look like Russian made AK-47's to me.

The reason why there is so much turmoil in the world is because most of the world looks at Israel’s behavior in the Middle East with disgrace…most notably their brutal treatment to the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Most of the world wants them to with drawl except for the Likud and the Republican/Democratic party in the United States…can most of the world be wrong?

You conveniently forget that muslim terrorists invented homocide bombings and have been engaged in terrorist activities for years, not weeks, years. If you want to stop the children from being harmed in Lebanon. Ask your terrorist friends to stop hiding behind them. Ask them to stop placing weapons on top of hospitals and schools. Not since Al Sharpton have I heard such baseless horseshit. Can most of the world be wrong? Who gives a fuck what the rest of the world thinks. I don't know about you but, I assess situations and make my own decision. I don't look around to see what everyone else thinks and then chime in. That is for pussies and sheep.


Besides, the rest of the world does not believe that Israel is wrong. They simply think that Israel's response was too harsh. You, like most leftists, take a morsel of truth and snowball it into a mountain of conjecture. Bottom line, you seem to dislike Jews and support terrorists. Why is that?

 

[Patrick R.]

You conveniently forget that muslim terrorists invented homocide bombings and have been engaged in terrorist activities for years, not weeks, years.

Oh and why have they been ‘suicide bombers’? The Jews robbed an entire nation through terror and mass murder and they continue to attack they have kept the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip…it is a recipe for uprisings.

If you want to stop the children from being harmed in Lebanon. Ask your terrorist friends to stop hiding behind them. Ask them to stop placing weapons on top of hospitals and schools.

Oh well the Israelis have around 200 hydrogen bombs…so should we rain bombs on Israeli schools and hospitals? Come on now, if you want to talk about weapons here talk about your terrorist Zionist allies and their stockpiles of nuclear and biological weapons that could destroy the Middle East and much of Europe.

Not since Al Sharpton have I heard such baseless horseshit. Can most of the world be wrong? Who gives a fuck what the rest of the world thinks. I don't know about you but, I assess situations and make my own decision. I don't look around to see what everyone else thinks and then chime in. That is for pussies and sheep.

OHO…who cares what the world says! Lets just base our opinions on the terrorist nation known as Israel! That is right…no matter how many people they kill they are always right, any kind of condemnation against them is anti Semitic…wow, what a counter argument.

Yes, that is some excellent decisions, destroy the fragile Lebanese nation, no diplomacy, only carnage…well why not? The Israelis have been doing it since their war of ‘Independence’.

Besides, the rest of the world does not believe that Israel is wrong. They simply think that Israel's response was too harsh. You, like most leftists, take a morsel of truth and snowball it into a mountain of conjecture. Bottom line, you seem to dislike Jews and support terrorists. Why is that?

Oh yes the world does believe Israel is wrong fah q…only does the United States support the Likud party and their expiations policies and their brutal treatment of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza strip…even many Jews want the Palestinians to have a homeland but I guess the American and Israeli government is right and everybody else is wrong.

Oh, first you say I’m a bigot who hates Jews and now all the sudden I am a leftist? Right, left wingers are very notorious for their anti Semitism right? :Smug:

Where do you keep getting this nonsense that ‘I hate Jews’ from? Should I say you hate America for not condemning Israelis terrorist attacks against us in the Lavon Affair and the USS Liberty? So who are the terrorist now?

 

[fah-q]

Oh and why have they been ‘suicide bombers’? The Jews robbed an entire nation through terror and mass murder and they continue to attack they have kept the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip…it is a recipe for uprisings.
Hello, McFly? Please try to pay attention. The debate over the land has been going on for a long time. Since the dawn of time, land has been allocated through war. Pat, you cannot call Israeli military responses terrorism.


Oh well the Israelis have around 200 hydrogen bombs…so should we rain bombs on Israeli schools and hospitals? Come on now, if you want to talk about weapons here talk about your terrorist Zionist allies and their stockpiles of nuclear and biological weapons that could destroy the Middle East and much of Europe.
See, this is where I draw my conclusion that you are a bigot. You blaming the zionists is no different than when racists like Al Sharpton blame white people for their troubles. And, like most leftists, you never for a moment look to yourself as a potential cause of the problem.


OHO…who cares what the world says! Lets just base our opinions on the terrorist nation known as Israel! That is right…no matter how many people they kill they are always right, any kind of condemnation against them is anti Semitic…wow, what a counter argument.That is not what I said but, at this point I expect nothing less from you. I know how difficult it is to deal in facts when you are so used to spewing conjecture and feelings-based ideas.

Yes, that is some excellent decisions, destroy the fragile Lebanese nation, no diplomacy, only carnage…well why not? The Israelis have been doing it since their war of ‘Independence’. This proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. the war of independence only took place because armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia AND Lebanon invaded the Jewish state. This is how you leftists twist the truth. You did not lie in stating that Israel was at war with Lebanon. You did however, conveniently leave out the fact that the Lebanese were not only the aggressor but, they had the help of 5 other countries. You also failed to mention that this took place in 1973. What is wrong with you?



Oh yes the world does believe Israel is wrong fah q…only does the United States support the Likud party and their expiations policies and their brutal treatment of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza strip…even many Jews want the Palestinians to have a homeland but I guess the American and Israeli government is right and everybody else is wrong.

Oh, first you say I’m a bigot who hates Jews and now all the sudden I am a leftist? Right, left wingers are very notorious for their anti Semitism right? :Smug: Just because you are a leftist, does not mean you cannot be a bigot. I believe senator Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK.

Where do you keep getting this nonsense that ‘I hate Jews’ from? I get that from all of your previous posts.Should I say you hate America for not condemning Israelis terrorist attacks against us in the Lavon Affair and the USS Liberty? So who are the terrorist now?

Don't ever question my love for my country you twit. You keep bringing up the fact that Israel attacked the USS Liberty. True as that may be, it was in 19-fucking-67. Almost 40 years ago and you bring it up as if it were yesterday. The Lavon affair, as I recall, took place in the 50's. Your two biggest arguements over Isreal being terrorists are 40-50 years old. In the USS Liberty incident, it was Israeli naval ships that engaged the USS Liberty. How do you clasify that as terror? Is Al Franken your mentor or do you come up with this horseshit yourself? Muslim terrorists walk into crowded Israeli marketplaces and blow themselves up. The USS Liberty was a military ship. When you join the military, there is an understanding that at some point, you may be in danger. When Israeli families go to the market, they should not have to worry about Muslim homocide bombers blowing up their family. One is an act of war, the other is an act of terror. Your points are so full of holes and misrepresent the truth.

Patty, are you a Muslim? Is that why you are so upset? Are your beliefs as a Muslim robbing you of your logic and reason?
Have a nice day.

 

[Patrick R.]

Don't ever question my love for my country you twit. You keep bringing up the fact that Israel attacked the USS Liberty. True as that may be, it was in 19-fucking-67.Almost 40 years ago and you bring it up as if it were yesterday[/COLOR]

Oh, ok, so what are you trying to say? Because they attacked a few decades ago it makes things all better now? Just pretend it never happened! Fact remains Israel has attacked the United States of America and your reply is ‘oh that happened decades ago’…thanks for your patriotism...(which is for Israel).

The Lavon affair, as I recall, took place in the 50's. Your two biggest arguements over Isreal being terrorists are 40-50 years old. In the USS Liberty incident, it was Israeli naval ships that engaged the USS Liberty. How do you clasify that as terror?

Oh no…those two terrorist attacks were only against the United States , a nation that has supplied them with billions of dollars, much need diplomatic support, and direct military assistance (which in turn was used against the USS Liberty).

Nice job trying to white wash Israeli terrorism against their allies…‘oh that happened years ago so it is no big deal’. You ask how I classify that as terror? Attacking their allies? What the hell else do you call that?

Is Al Franken your mentor or do you come up with this horseshit yourself? Muslim terrorists walk into crowded Israeli marketplaces and blow themselves up. The USS Liberty was a military ship. When you join the military, there is an understanding that at some point, you may be in danger.[/COLOR]

You should blame the Israeli government and their expansionist policies then…if you don’t want to see Jews in Israel killed then maybe the Israeli government should pull out of the West Bank because that is the source of terrorism…the Palestinians are kept under brutal military occupation, they aren’t even allowed democratic rule in their own country and I am not going to support a nation that terrorizes other people including their allies but for some odd reason you do.

Yes the USS Liberty was a military ship and it belonged to the United States and the fact that you don't care that the Israelis attacked it makes me wonder...it really does...are you paid by AIPAC to talk crap on forums?

Patty, are you a Muslim? Is that why you are so upset? Are your beliefs as a Muslim robbing you of your logic and reason?
Have a nice day.

I’m European American just as much as you are Jewish American.

Besides, I don’t have a problem with the Arab world…at one time they use to like America until we supported Zionist crimes against them…I guess you like paying over 2 $ in gas…guess what, it will go higher if we keep playing with the people who sell us our oil but I guess high gas prices is worth the protection of the ‘Jewish’ state right? For you maybe, not for me.

 

[fah-q]

Oh, ok, so what are you trying to say? Because they attacked a few decades ago it makes things all better now? Just pretend it never happened! Fact remains Israel has attacked the United States of America and your reply is ‘oh that happened decades ago’…thanks for your patriotism...(which is for Israel).
I knew you would say this. By your twisted logic, the US should never deal with anyone who has ever attacked us? That means we should not deal with Japan, Germany, Italy or England? You are as foolish as you are predictable.


Oh no…those two terrorist attacks were only against the United States , a nation that has supplied them with billions of dollars, much need diplomatic support, and direct military assistance (which in turn was used against the USS Liberty). Why is it that I have to explain things to you over and over again. When one countries military attacks another countries military it is an ACT OF WAR. It is not terrorism. Read this over and over until you understand.

Nice job trying to white wash Israeli terrorism against their allies…‘oh that happened years ago so it is no big deal’. You ask how I classify that as terror? Attacking their allies? What the hell else do you call that?
See above, read until you understand.


You should blame the Israeli government and their expansionist policies then…if you don’t want to see Jews in Israel killed then maybe the Israeli government should pull out of the West Bank because that is the source of terrorism…the Palestinians are kept under brutal military occupation, they aren’t even allowed democratic rule in their own country and I am not going to support a nation that terrorizes other people including their allies but for some odd reason you do.Baseless crap

Yes the USS Liberty was a military ship and it belonged to the United States and the fact that you don't care that the Israelis attacked it makes me wonder...it really does...are you paid by AIPAC to talk crap on forums?
You conveniently leave out the fact that, at the time of the attack, the US was not aligned with Israel. You mention them as allies of ours in the present tense but, bring up issues that are past tense. Stop with your empty rhetoric already.


I’m European American just as much as you are Jewish American.
You are a Muslim, admit it.

Besides, I don’t have a problem with the Arab world…at one time they use to like America until we supported Zionist crimes against them…I guess you like paying over 2 $ in gas…guess what, it will go higher if we keep playing with the people who sell us our oil but I guess high gas prices is worth the protection of the ‘Jewish’ state right? For you maybe, not for me.

There are many in the Arab world that like and respect the United States. They are the ones who don't hide behind their religion when performing acts of terror. You toss Zionist out there whenever you have run out of lies to spin. You are a Muslim Al Sharpton. Anytime someone wrongs your people, you scream Zionist! Just like Al Sharpton.

You never did answer my question when I asked if you were a Muslim. This post confirms it. Change your screen name to Ali-Sharpton.

 

[Patrick R.]

There are many in the Arab world that like and respect the United States. They are the ones who don't hide behind their religion when performing acts of terror. You toss Zionist out there whenever you have run out of lies to spin. You are a Muslim Al Sharpton. Anytime someone wrongs your people, you scream Zionist! Just like Al Sharpton.

HAHA fah-q you really do belong in a circus you know that? I could imagine you with your multi colored Whig on your head along with a read strap on nose. Support for American in the Arab world is going down hill thanks to pro Israel morons like yourself in the media and government…well anytime someone wrongs your people (the Jews) you scream ‘Muslim’…just like Al Sharpton.

You never did answer my question when I asked if you were a Muslim. This post confirms it. Change your screen name to Ali-Sharpton.

Oh but I did…I said I was European American, no Muslim here…what is your fetish with Al Sharpton? Didn’t you Jews endorse him in the Democratic party?

I knew you would say this. By your twisted logic, the US should never deal with anyone who has ever attacked us? That means we should not deal with Japan, Germany, Italy or England? You are as foolish as you are predictable.

We were at war with those countries ok? At war! We weren’t at war with Israel when they attacked our installation in Egypt (to try and make America go to war with them) and we weren’t at war with them when they attacked the USS Liberty…but in any case even if they never attacked us they still DO NOT need all the support they are getting from the United States.

But in any case I never said that the US should not deal with anyone who has attacked us…we can deal with Israel but not assist them in their crimes…do we really need another 9/11?

Why is it that I have to explain things to you over and over again. When one countries military attacks another countries military it is an ACT OF WAR. It is not terrorism. Read this over and over until you understand.

Oh ok…so the Israel’s didn’t commit terrorism against the United States it was an act of war right? Oh ok so they wanted war with the United States? Ok…you should back off now because you are only making a fool out of yourself.
Yes fah q, it was an act of war rather then terrorism…I see clearly now that the rain is gone HAHA.

You conveniently leave out the fact that, at the time of the attack, the US was not aligned with Israel. You mention them as allies of ours in the present tense but, bring up issues that are past tense. Stop with your empty rhetoric already.

The United States was aligned with Israel at the time…we have been aligned with them from the very beginning…that’s right fah q, don’t condemn Israel’s ‘act of war’ against the United States…continue to white wash it and continue to condemn Islamic fundamentalist.

My bullshit meter is pinned. Muslims invented terrorism. Weren't those muslims that murdered jews at 72 Olympics?

That means Muslims ‘invented’ terrorism…talk about a ‘bull shit meter’. You seem to be forgetting history, when the Jews fled the Spanish inquisition in Spain where did they go? Within the Ottoman empire, which was Muslim of course…the Jewish holy books are full of praise for the Ottomans. Remember the fall of the once white city Constantinople by non-White Muslim armies? The Jews were blamed for actively handing over the city of Constantinople to the Muslim invaders …so the logical question is how did the Jews and Muslims at each others throat? The answer to that question lies within the creation of the Jewish ethno state known as Israel.

My ancestry has nothing to do with my view on the world. Logic and reason are where I draw my views and ideas. I am predisposed to thinking a certain way because I am Native American? Where the hell are you coming from?

I’m not saying your ancestry has anything to do with your world view…I’m just saying I have never meet any Native American support Israel the way you do and I already listed the non Jews that do support Israel.

Strange, nowhere in this article does it say anything about Iran supplying Hezbollah with missles. Could that be because the NY Times is a leftist fish-wrap?

Well, that isn’t to ‘strange’ considering the fact that I didn’t post the article to prove anything about Iran supplying Hezbollah with weapons…I posted the article to prove that America is supplying Israel with weapons, a major factor for anti Americanism and terrorism against us world wide...the New York Times is liberal and pro Israel.

For every example of alleged zionist terrorism, I could give you a dozen instances of Muslim terrorism. Give it a rest, this is getting old.

No I’m sorry, when was the last time Muslim terrorist stole an entire nation and kept them under brutal military occupation?

Who are you trying to convince here? You or me?

Right, it is ok for the Jewish state to attack the United States right? It doesn’t appear to bother you one bit.

The point is not that either country is a threat. The point is that they (the muslim terrorists) won't stop killing jews. Stop focusing on the the past 4 weeks and look at the big picture. This isn't about kidknapped soldiers. It is about years and years of being antagonized.

Wait a minute…you told me that ‘oh the Lavon Affair was years ago and you are making it out to be like it was yesterday’ while at the same time you tell me to ‘look at the big picture rather then the past 4 weeks’. Which one is it…look at the past or current events…make up your mind, but in any case I am going to examine every bit of this conflict.

But anyway, the Muslim terrorist will stop ‘killing Jews’ and targeting Western interest if we stop our biased support for Israel. George Bush threatening to destroy the Middle East and set up democracies that are friendly to Israel has only helped support Muslim terrorist groups in marked contrast to what the Bush administration supposedly wants to stop.

Wow, this is some delusional shit. When in doubt, compare the US to Nazi Germany. You are tipping your hand. I do however like the Mark Anthony reference. You think he is popping J-Lo in the butt?

I’m talking about how leaders commit suicide to avoid capture…Nazis or not.

You could write a book about all of the countries we have supported with diplomacy and military aid. Israel is one of many customers.
What is the weapon of choice for your friends in the Taliban? Those look like Russian made AK-47's to me.

Well that is how the United States government works…we support people we like and then in a next instance…remember Saddam? He was a ‘friend’ of the United States government as well until we didn’t need him anymore…remember Bin Laden? He was the friend of the United States government…that is how the corrupt Zionist dominated federal government works.

But Israel has received much more support from the US then any other nation, economically, military and so on. It is odd that this nation still receives money from US tax payers when they are a wealthy industrial state roughly equal North Korea and Spain…but I guess that is to be expected when pro Israel zealots like yourself are in office.

Hello, McFly? Please try to pay attention. The debate over the land has been going on for a long time. Since the dawn of time, land has been allocated through war. Pat, you cannot call Israeli military responses terrorism.

It sure has been going on for a long time…the military control over Gaza and the Israeli attempts to colonize the West Bank so that it will become de facto Israel is the root of all the terrorism, until you admit that there can never be a solution…the evil Arabs poor Jew argument is going down the drain and yes I can call Israeli military response terrorism considering the fact that they have killed scores of civilians and made thousands of refuges, people that had nothing to do with Hezbollah.

See, this is where I draw my conclusion that you are a bigot. You blaming the zionists is no different than when racists like Al Sharpton blame white people for their troubles. And, like most leftists, you never for a moment look to yourself as a potential cause of the problem.

Well who gives Al Sharpton and others like him their little white guilt trip? Might it be the Zionist in the media or the Jews that spearheaded the Marxist ‘civil rights’ movement? That is the thing about these Zionist groups such as the ADL…they are all for a liberal America but at the same time they are for a conservative extremist Israel based on blood…what hypocrisy.

that is not what I said but, at this point I expect nothing less from you. I know how difficult it is to deal in facts when you are so used to spewing conjecture and feelings-based ideas.

Well I didn’t say that you said it…but you most certainly said ‘who gives a fuck what the world says’…funny you should talk about ‘facts’ when you have been hammered by them throughout the entire debate.

This proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. the war of independence only took place because armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia AND Lebanon invaded the Jewish state. This is how you leftists twist the truth. You did not lie in stating that Israel was at war with Lebanon. You did however, conveniently leave out the fact that the Lebanese were not only the aggressor but, they had the help of 5 other countries. You also failed to mention that this took place in 1973. What is wrong with you?

The Israeli war of Independence did come into creation through carnage, after Zionist gangs murder and tortured British soldiers and UN mediator in Palestine, Count Folke Bernadotte they succeeded in driving out the British and long story short they terrorized the Palestinians until they left their land and then the bang the Jewish state was created…the parallels of how the Zionist are driving thousands of Lebanese out of their homes and the Israel war of Independence is unmistakable.

You say Israelis war of Independence was ‘only’ place after all of those countries invaded the Jewish state? Talk about distorting the truth! The Zionist planned on having a Jewish homeland for since the late 1800’s and Israel’s war of independence was in 1948, not in 1973...the Jews stole Palestine from the Palestinians and proclaimed it a Jewish state…funny right, the same United States federal government that was real quick to force racial integration in the United States supports Israel…the Jewish state! Like I said…what hypocrisy!

Just because you are a leftist, does not mean you cannot be a bigot. I believe senator Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK.

Oh ok…the ‘leftist’ are bigots? Well…I guess you are right…look at all those Zionist ‘left wing’ morons like Hillary Clinton that support Israel…the racist Nazi like state! But that is what happens when you look for words instead of facts my friend…you get nowhere.

I get that from all of your previous posts

Well…I do recall saying that the Jews need a homeland…so I guess I don’t hate them to much, that is just a weak argument.

Horseshit. If support for Hezbollah has grown, where the fuck is the Lebanese military? Of course the Lebanese want this to stop. If my city was being bombed because terrorists were there, I would want it to stop too!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/28/AR2006072800917.html

Support for Hezbollah is growing which the most simplest of any research will show you…maybe those cluster bombs the Israelis are dropping or perhaps the fact that their power plants roads and bridges have been destroyed.

I call this a good start.

You a moron and a hypocrite…you condemn Muslim terrorism and then support Israel expulsion of over 80,000 Syrians.

Who's land is it?

Well if that is the game you want to play then don’t complain when the Arabs retaliate.

When was this first invasion?

1982.

 

[fah-q]

Mr Patrick Bin Ladin.
You bore me with your horseshit and propaganda. You and your terrorist friends can keep blowing up things in Europe and blaming the Jews for your shitty lives. "European American" What the fuck does that mean? You are a displaced European who lives in America, reaping the benifits of the greatest country in the world but you never misses an oppportunity to slander the US and its citizens. Another loudmouth piece of euro-trash that is all mouth and no substance.
If you are living here and can't take it anymore, get the fuck out. Open a PayPal account and I am sure you would receive enough donations to buy yourself a plane ticket home.
Have a nice day.

 

[Patrick R.]

Mr Patrick Bin Ladin.
You bore me with your horseshit and propaganda. You and your terrorist friends can keep blowing up things in Europe and blaming the Jews for your shitty lives. "European American" What the fuck does that mean? You are a displaced European who lives in America, reaping the benifits of the greatest country in the world but you never misses an oppportunity to slander the US and its citizens. Another loudmouth piece of euro-trash that is all mouth and no substance.
If you are living here and can't take it anymore, get the fuck out. Open a PayPal account and I am sure you would receive enough donations to buy yourself a plane ticket home.
Have a nice day.

Are you on crack? European America is a white America...I should of just said white American but I didn't want to offend the Jewish American.

 

[Jurched]

Mr Patrick Bin Ladin.
You bore me with your horseshit and propaganda. You and your terrorist friends can keep blowing up things in Europe and blaming the Jews for your shitty lives.

Up to now I've avoided even reading this mess, because its basically the same old Pre-2000 nonsense. Back then, it was "Hezbollah fires rockets into Israel, Israeli jets pound Hezbollah targets" on page 8, second column. Why is this shit now all over the front pages?

But I like this whole fight scene between these guys:

• PATRICK O'BIN LADEN, "Top o' the mornin' ta ya, me foin' Irish Obedient to Allah and his Prophet laddies!"

• FAH-Q, pro-Zionist whose expletive name reads like the name of some watering spot for sheep outside Mecca.

This is the sort of Classic weirdo shit one can only find on Billy Milano's forum!

Jurched

 

[fah-q]

Mr Bin Ladin,
I believe you are the one on crack. A European American is a label and nothing else. If you were born here, regardless of how much you love terrorists, you are an American. If you were to say "I am an American of European descent." You would be correct. Calling yourself a European American says one of two things. Either you don't understand the meaning of certain words in the English language. Or, you put ethnocentrism in front of nationalism.
Have a nice day.

 

[Patrick R.]

Mr Bin Ladin,
I believe you are the one on crack. A European American is a label and nothing else. If you were born here, regardless of how much you love terrorists, you are an American. If you were to say "I am an American of European descent." You would be correct. Calling yourself a European American says one of two things. Either you don't understand the meaning of certain words in the English language. Or, you put ethnocentrism in front of nationalism.
Have a nice day.

Listen fah q...I'm going to explain this so even you can understand it...a European American is a white America, period...'European' is a better term then 'white'...once you say white the Zionist like your self go off the wall.

 

[fah-q]

Listen fah q...I'm going to explain this so even you can understand it...a European American is a white America, period...'European' is a better term then 'white'...once you say white the Zionist like your self go off the wall.

Patrick Bin Ladin,
I am now fully convinced that you are developmentally disabled.
have a nice day and please remember to wear your helmet on the bus.

 

[Patrick R.]

Patrick Bin Ladin,
I am now fully convinced that you are developmentally disabled.
have a nice day and please remember to wear your helmet on the bus.

Well...it is hard for me to type out in the desert with my camel beside me.

 

[fah-q]

Well...it is hard for me to type out in the desert with my camle beside me.

What's a camle?