mac osx question

[xconnyx]

hi guys!

i got myself a mac book pro today and since i'm new to mac osx now i wanted to know if i need to do a clean install or tweak some thing in mac osx to use it with cubase. or can i may start right away?

also i would like to know if cubase files *.cpr are compartible or cant i open pc cubase files in osx anymore?

thanks!

 

[SocialNumb]

Is it new? Go right ahead with cubase.

Used with a new install? Go right ahead with cubase.

Used with a bunch of stuff the previous user left. Reinstall.

Can't help with the .cpr, don't have cubase.

 

[TheDriller]

You don't really need to tweak anything in OS X , though if you feel so inclined you can use an app like OnyX to modify a few hidden parameters.
I personally like to change the 3D dock to 2D and a few other little tweaks.

http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html

if the .cpr file is the standard Cubase project file then im sure you will be able to open in in Cubase regardless of platform.

 

[xconnyx]

thanks!

it is brand new, no previous users...

 

[006]

Yeah it's not necessary to tweak anything though... I've never had to tweak either of my Macs for recording and no complaints so far

Cubase project files are universal over Mac and PC, you are fine.

 

[TheDriller]

you might want to do a re-install anyway and set up 2 partitions, one for the system and one for storage.
it will make any future installs less of a hassle.

 

[xconnyx]

i there a way to avoid a new install if setting up partitions?

 

[beyond dead]

yeah, you can create a new partition without reinstalling. but if you decide to delete the partition later, your original partition cannot be resized to use the "free space" that the second partition once occupied.

long version:
I know from experience. I had some issues with networking and waking from sleep. created a new partition and installed the os on that partition. turned out my issues were software related, not hardware. so I reinstalled logic 9 on my new problem free partition, deleted the old one, and found that I could not resize my new partition to occupy the free space. ended up having to reformat, reinstall logic, and battery.

short version: dont partition your hard drive for storage or another os. once you install your DAW and shit loads of plugs and apps (battery, ssd, superior, melodyne) your not gonna have much room for media. buy an external hard drive, keep your media on that, use your internal hd for your apps.

original question: dont worry about reinstalling your os, BUT: use disk utility to verify and repair permissions after installing.
here is some instructions of how to repair permissions PROPERLY:
1) verify
2) repair if necessary
3) verify again to make sure, often you will have to repair permissions twice. verify untill permissions are ok

 

[JeffTD]

DO NOT PARTITION A SINGLE DRIVE LIKE THAT.

I don't know who told you guys that was a good idea, but they should be promptly punched in the balls!

Having a single harddrive partitioned into two volumes like that is WORSE than having it all on the same drive. It makes the drive work harder than if it were a single volume, and it's even more prone to crashing.

Just get a good external and put your audio projects on that.

 

[JBroll]

If you're not constantly trying to read from both partitions at the same time (which is the case with *nix systems, which have - for security and safety reasons - separate partitions for home, var, and often usr mounts) it's just fine. It's also a great way to keep one buggered operating system from destroying everything. That setup's validity depends far more on implementation than you seem to be claiming.

Jeff

 

[JeffTD]

If you're not constantly trying to read from both partitions at the same time (which is the case with *nix systems, which have - for security and safety reasons - separate partitions for home, var, and often usr mounts) it's just fine. It's also a great way to keep one buggered operating system from destroying everything. That setup's validity depends far more on implementation than you seem to be claiming.

Jeff

Right, but what they're trying to do is set one up so that if the system crashes they can easily reformat/reinstall the OS on that volume without losing the rest of your shit.

Problem is... OS X crashes and needs a reinstall, I'd bet money that it's a physical HD failure, and that other volume is gone.

 

[JBroll]

I've seen more than a few borked OS X installations that weren't physical failures - I wish I had taken you up on that bet sometime over the last few months so I could afford that Saffire unit you're selling right now.

I fail to see how you're running into serious problems with the hard drive 'working harder' - if one file is at location A and the other is at location B, the drive has to work to access both anyway. Unless most of what I know about HFS is wrong, this looks to be a case of "Why the hell not?" - if the issue is physical we're fucked either way, and if it isn't then there's a good chance at recovery. Although I'd enjoy kicking a few sysadmins in the balls at times, recommending that action as punishment for the default setup for many *nix systems seems a little odd.

Jeff

 

[beyond dead]

Problem is... OS X crashes and needs a reinstall, I'd bet money that it's a physical HD failure, and that other volume is gone.

not true. Its usually software related issues that would require a re installation. If a fresh installation exhibits the same symptoms as the previous, then you have a hardware related issue.
in that case, I would boot into safe mode and back up everything.

It is useful to use a partition for back ups. If I had a 500 gb internal drive, I would probably partition and back up with time machine or something.

 

[JeffTD]

Bottom line is the drive works harder to access files on seperate partitions than on the same partition, and if you're accessing both (as you will be if you use one as an audio drive), you're just slowing things down.

 

[JBroll]

Source for your claim? How significant is it?

Jeff

 

[JeffTD]

Without tracking down a source, how does that not make sense? If you're accessing files from both partitions at once, unless I'm completely mistaken here, the IDE bus has to work harder.

Unless you're partitioning to keep your system drive on the outer edge of the platter (fastest part of the drive), I don't see any point in doing it. If you're using a partition as a backup, you are fucked super hard when that thing fails physically.

 

[Fox Mulder]

DSS3: Is your avatar from the "World of Warcraft" thing?

 

[JeffTD]

Yes, yes it is.

Upon re-reading the thread... I get what the guy is doing now. I thought you were suggesting to partition the drive as a 'system' and an 'audio' volume, which would not give anywhere near the benefit of separate 'system' and 'audio' drives.

Given that, partitioning makes sense, just really get a separate physical backup incase the drive itself takes a shit.

 

[Metaltastic]

You know, I've never once had a hard drive physically fail, and for reference, we currently have 4 computers in my house atm, which has been close to the norm for at least a decade! (cue inevitable failure of every single one within 10 seconds )

 

[JeffTD]

You know, I've never once had a hard drive physically fail, and for reference, we currently have 4 computers in my house atm, which has been close to the norm for at least a decade! (cue inevitable failure of every single one within 10 seconds )

I tapped my boner so you should be good, but damn! I've had 4 fail on me personally, not counting the ones in my family!