Mackie Digital 8 Bus

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Someone just gave one of these to my boss and hes giving it to me. I've done a little reading on it and havent seen anything good. But for free fuck it, I figured I could at least use it as a glorified controller for pro tools, only thing that sucks is I think it'll only work on 8 faders at a time. Still better having physical knobs and faders in front of me than moving shit with a mouse. Does anybody have any experience with it? Opinions/likes/dislikes etc.
 
Yeh dude we do a lot of work at one of the universities around here and they upgraded the setup they use, my boss has a real good name with them so they gave it to him and he doesnt want it. It'll work in HUI mode but from what i'm reading, HUI mode will only control 8 at a time, i have to keep hitting the bank button to switch to the next group of 8. My biggest thing right now is making sure it has the 5.1 software in it to work in HUI otherwise its like a $300 upgrade for it, which is a small price to pay considering the board itself is free.
 
I really hate the aux 3-4/5-6 shift thing that Mackie did on their 8 bus mixer, but that shouldn't be a big deal unless you plan on using it live and want to run FOH and monitors with it. I've heard Gavin Harrison uses an 8 bus with Apogee converters to track his drums!
 
I really hate the aux 3-4/5-6 shift thing that Mackie did on their 8 bus mixer, but that shouldn't be a big deal unless you plan on using it live and want to run FOH and monitors with it. I've heard Gavin Harrison uses an 8 bus with Apogee converters to track his drums!
The D8B is a totally different animal than the analog 8 busses they made. For free it's a great score. They were cool boards and AFAIK the most expensive thing mackie ever made.
 
Sup?

Hell,,I love mine ;)

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Congrats,,,,she is a fine machine for sure. need any help hit me up.

Yes,,with software vrs.5.1 in HUI mode you can bank up/down 8 at a time.
or with a little time and effort you can just midi map everything.

There is a guy in Spain that is making great progress working on a control .DLL that will let the DAW see the D8B a 3 MCU units for a full on control surface with meter bridge, WITHOUT even using the D8B's CPU (except for power supply to the board) ,,but it will have no audio though,,only DAW control.

Fingers crossed. I can always swap cables in between tracking and mixing....Just a small inconvenience for me for such a great functional addition to this boards already cool features.

MOSHON
DAVE
 
Well I picked it up yesterday. Tried to power it up and I got the system 43 error. And the problem with that is none of the keyboards I have at my house are working on it. Does anyone know what the F1 button would be called on the physical board lol. Looks like I get to play techy all day and try and get this thing up and running. Aside of that though as far as looks and all that goes, the board is flawless. Not one scratch anywhere on it. It looks like it was never even touched.


@Dave- I think I saw a few videos on that guy. Was he using nuendo? The one I saw, the guy was working on the coding in linux, so does that mean I wont be able to use it on mac OSX once/if he finally finishes it?
 

Fuckin fail on my end then. So that means im not even plugging the keyboard into the right fuckin spot haha.

I pulled the mouse out and plugged a keyboard in where the mouse was.

When I power the CPU up the keyboard lights flash but thats as far as it goes and you sir may have just solved that problem.

And did you know about that already or did you just find that online? If you just found it let me know where you were looking so I dont have to ask anymore retarded questions like that one.
 
Buddy of mine had one for a couple years before he went to a C24. Its an old pentium in the D8B and I had to scrounge him up another keyboard from the lab when he spilled rum and coke all over his. I've lost the link, but there was a good site out there on what could be upgraded in the hardware. IIRC you could use a P2 or P3 motherboard with the cards that came with it. Best of luck.
 
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Well I picked it up yesterday. Tried to power it up and I got the system 43 error. And the problem with that is none of the keyboards I have at my house are working on it. Does anyone know what the F1 button would be called on the physical board lol. Looks like I get to play techy all day and try and get this thing up and running. Aside of that though as far as looks and all that goes, the board is flawless. Not one scratch anywhere on it. It looks like it was never even touched.

OK,, you will want to bookmark these pages

Official Mackie page
http://www.mackie.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=2&page=1

It doesn't get allot of support from Mackie anymore, and has lost allot of old posts here and there due to board updates and things, but there is still good info there.

Most of the Die-hards have been migrating over to Peter's page,,Along with Mark,,,the guy that is doing the DAW research
....here

http://www.d8bforum.com/phpBB3/index.php

Both of them have the Database you can search when you have issues arise with the board.

BTW....Fear not......FROM the Database.... ;)

Another "Mortal Me" scenario could be that the Mouse and Keyboard connections are accidentally reversed . This will also cause a "System Error 43" message to appear on a d8b with V5.1 software.


The board does have its little quirks ,and you'll get to know what they are ,,but the very first thing you do when the board acts weird is disconnect and reconnect the BFC (,,,Big Fuggin Cable) and the DATA cable that goes to the CPU. The other thing if that don't do it(especially after moving or shipping the board, but not limited to...) is to pull all the cards out of the back( FX, clock, I/O, etc) and put them back in, then reboot.

Also the board likes to be the Clock master,,and don't like to see Clock signals when it boots. Every now and again I'll get a little weirdness if I have to shut down and power back up with the DAW still on or if the power goes off or something,,,


What all did your board come loaded with in the back? (FX, clock, I/O, etc)
Did they tell you what OS it is supposed to have?
Did you get the Gigantic manual with it?


@Dave- I think I saw a few videos on that guy. Was he using nuendo? The one I saw, the guy was working on the coding in linux, so does that mean I wont be able to use it on mac OSX once/if he finally finishes it?

He said it will be OSX compliant when they are done.
here is the post
Marc Girard said:
anyhorizon said:
I'm assuming that accommodating Mac DAWs is out of the question.

Actually Peter, we'll surely support Macs... Our development software is completely cross-platform! :)


Here is the orig. thread...
http://www.mackie.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=49003#Post49003

Here is where it is now...
http://www.d8bforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=175



Like I said if you need any help with it give me a shout I'd be more than happy to help if I can,,,I mostly read and learn instead of post here as there are way more learned people here than me and most questions I have already been answered,, so If I can give a little back...Great.


MOSHON
DAVE
 
Gotta love this,,,,strait from the DAW with no D8B CPU... gonna be Like a poor mans C4...sorta:lol:
and a little more info about OSX in franks post

Marc Girard said:
Hello all!

First, let me welcome my good buddy Frank on the board,

Francois Vezina said:
Hello all... The "Frank" in question that Marc is talking about is me :)

I have taken control of the VU meters and the character display (not too hard for the character display mind you but there was a little trick to know on how to clear the screen). I will be showing this to Marc in the morning (it's 1:45am here, time to hit the sack soon). Refresh rate of 20fps for all the VU meters (configurable - it can actually go at a maximum of 50fps without a problem). The little video I sent Marc has the VU meters update running will the character display shows some scrolling text and then I'm updating every VU meters with a random value - quite fast if you ask me... we may post this later. There's just one tiny bit of an issue that I need to figure out - the refresh is very fast but for some reason there are glitches here and there... I need to see if this is related to the serial port or something...

The question was asked if MAC will be supported... I'm writing the code in java at the moment. I know that Mac OSX has its own version of java so I don't know how much will be supported but I am not using anything special other than a communications jar file that is needed (in Windows it needs the jar, a dll and a properties file). We will have to test our application on MAC when we get it further done :)

Next thing on the display refresh will be the time stamp and the channel. Once that is done I'll start working on reading/updating all the faders... then, well, we'll see ;)

As Marc would say, we'll keep you posted! :)


Francois


it's nice to have another guy to talk to! :D Frank sent me a video with his new routines running. The meter bridge runs so fast that the camera has a bit of a problem displaying all frames! :) That's good news! Frank paid tribute to our good old Commodore 64 days and wrote a text side scroller for the d8b, I laughed when I first saw this! I thought I'd share the fun, take a look right here:



This might not look like much, but let me describe what has been done:

- First try to use Java (it works, obviously!)
- Complete rewrite of init routines
- Meter Bridge routine that's WAY faster (I mean, by 300% or close!)
- New VFD Text routine that works to show info
As you can see, Frank is not screwing around, in 4 hours he improved my protoypes that took me something like a months to do! (Though, it helps when all the reverse engineering has been done for you! *Poke at Frank*)

That's it, more to come we'll start to work on faders!

Cheers all,

Marc


MOSHON
DAVE
 
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Really helpful post dude, greatly appreciated.

I just tried booting up after reconnecting everything and leaving the mouse unplugged. Same problem. On the screen its saying I have a CMOS checksum error.

Pics loaded upside down, not really sure why but here.

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and heres the back of the console

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Idk what the OS is currently on it since I cant get past that screen. I have floppies here for V 2.03, but im not sure if that is whats currently loaded atm.
 
Sup?

Open up the big double plate and see what cards are inside.

I don't see the Apogee Clock card,,open the Sync plate and see if the Stock card is in there.

You have 3 Di/o cards that you can use as Adat or TDIF I/O

The CMOS error could be a Dying/ dead battery, or just the wrong values loaded,,Just glancing at the upside down pic you have the newer Mobo...

Looking at pic....Be right back

MOSHON
DAVE
 
Sup?

Yeah,,unless you have both the mouse and Keyboard in you'll keep getting the 43 Error

Bookmark this page too
http://www.mackie.com/support/FAQ/d8b_detailed.html

this will tell you allot about your board


Get the Keyboard and mouse sorted first then see if it will boot or if the error changes.

If it is the same you can try resetting the Bios

You will need the Bios settings for the 300Mhz board.

and you might as well put a new battery in the CPU.


MOSHON
DAVE
 
Ok just got that opened up and reseated everything, same problem but heres pics of what cards were installed.

Digital Effects Slot A
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Digital effects Slot B
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Sync
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Thats all the cards that I have.