MESA - vote

[Uladyne]

After seeing that video I'm glad to learn that I've been pronouncing the name right. I knew I was right on the "mesa" part, but I've heard so many people say "mesa boooooooogie" that I was beginning to question my own judgment on the boogie part.

 

[arv_foh]

 

[Wolfeman]

The only thing the Recto and 5150 copied from the SLO was the 3rd gain stage, with the 39k cathode resistor. It for sure was copied, since Mike was the first person to do this. It's clearly what defines the 'modern' sound of tube amps.

So yeah, they kinda copied, but all 3 amps are very different tonally due to what happens after that stage in each amp. The SLO has the crazy post FX loop tone stack, the 5150 has some crazy virtual earth driver stuff going on, and the Recto is pretty straightforward. All this makes these amps different and sound great.

 

[Rhys Llewellyn]

I think most of us in the UK say "Mess-A".

 

[Rhys Llewellyn]

There is no voting, or poll on this. It IS pronounced May-suh, as posted in that video.

Do you say the name Porsche "Porsh" or "Porsh-A". Do you employ a German accent to do so?

Do you roll your R in Lamborghini?

Is it Jesus or Hay-Zus?

We all have regional variations and accents on all words but we don't necessarily use the original pronounciation, so it's not that clear cut. Just depends where you're from.

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

With Porsche, as with Mesa, it IS Porsch-A, and anyone who doesn't say it that way is wrong

The rolling of the R and the soft vs hard "J" are more of an accent thing, so that's different

 

[Mago]

We all have regional variations and accents on all words but we don't necessarily use the original pronounciation, so it's not that clear cut. Just depends where you're from.

Have you ever heared how italians say Benjamin Franklin or George Washington?
THAT'S how NOT to use the original pronounciation

 

[Rhys Llewellyn]

With Porsche, as with Mesa, it IS Porsch-A, and anyone who doesn't say it that way is wrong

The rolling of the R and the soft vs hard "J" are more of an accent thing, so that's different

The German word is a pronounciation/accent thing too though.

All German words (or at least the majority) of German words that end in an E are pronounced as "A".

In English the words looks like Porsh, and although I do say Porsh-A, the majority of English speaking people say Porsh.

I don't roll my R in Lamborghini though because I think I'd sound stupid. lol.

We pick and choose how we pronounce and we borrow a lot of words from other languages and adopt our own versions of pronouncing them.

So I think my argument does still stand... You say tomato I say tomato. Although that one only works if I say it out loud. lol.

 

[Rhys Llewellyn]

Have you ever heared how italians say Benjamin Franklin or George Washington?
THAT'S how NOT to use the original pronounciation

That's my point though!

That's how they say it because they are from another country and therefore have a different take on it It sounds right to them, so therefore is right.

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

Fair enough, but I guess I would say that as a personal rule, if it's a non-English word, I try to pronounce it correctly (e.g. saying "Quebec" as "Ke-bec," rather that "Kwe-bec") - and thus y'all durn foreigners ought to do the same

 

[Rhys Llewellyn]

Fair enough, but I guess I would say that as a personal rule, if it's a non-English word, I try to pronounce it correctly (e.g. saying "Quebec" as "Ke-bec," rather that "Kwe-bec") - and thus y'all durn foreigners ought to do the same

Hahaha.

I'm sure there are many exceptions to your rule. The English language has the most vocabulary of any language partly because we've taken so many words from other languages and made them our own, so it is actually impossible to pronounce every word from it's origin. Well I guess not impossible, but that would be hilarious to hear.

I'm just picking it apart 'cos I'm bored lol.

 

[phatfil]

def 'maysa'. i have heard 'messa', but never 'meesa'.

i thought SLO's had 4 gain stages, not 3?

 

[muckypup1]

I've heard some pronounce it "Messa boogie", too.

But, yeah. It's May-sa.

I always say it like "Messa boogie"

 

[Harry Hughes]

I always heard a lot of Americans calling it "May-sa" in videos, and I just figured that was probably correct, so that's what I use

 

[Sickan]

With Porsche, as with Mesa, it IS Porsch-A, and anyone who doesn't say it that way is wrong

The rolling of the R and the soft vs hard "J" are more of an accent thing, so that's different

Hahaha in Sweden we pronounce it like Posh-eh.

 

[XnaySaturo]

Fair enough, but I guess I would say that as a personal rule, if it's a non-English word, I try to pronounce it correctly (e.g. saying "Quebec" as "Ke-bec," rather that "Kwe-bec") - and thus y'all durn foreigners ought to do the same

I think I love you. No homo.

And the E in Porsche is something that's really hard to do in english, a bit easier for me since I'm french, but it is NOT "Porsch-A" like some americans say it. It's like you cut an "er" syllable in half or something. It's hard to explain, but here's a german dude saying it, it's the 4th word in: http://german.about.com/library/media/sound/words_a.mp3

 

[JHA]

I'm pretty sure the 5150 is based off the Soldano SLO, same with mesa. It's Soldano that invented the high gain amps.

Dunno man, found this from wiki: "Michael (Soldano) worked on modifying his Bassman for years, until he bought a Mesa/Boogie Mark II and began modifying this amp. The first three SLO amps were based upon this amp and the first one was sold to Howard Leese from the band Heart."

Guess we'll never know what really happened

 

[AHChris]

lol thats a cool discussion

I am from Germany and I say the "e" in Mesa exactly as I say the "e" in Porsche...

 

[updog]

The second option for me - in Half-Life, whenever someone mentioned Black Mesa they pronounced it may-sa, and hey, it's Half-Life it must be correct.

 

[Metal Overload]

In Spanish, Mesa means "Table" as in "Tea Table" so is common to pronounce it "Messa"