Metal fans and wizard things

[damnromulans]

Would you say you have a higher than average tolerance/enjoyment of fantasy, occult history, and succumbing to ideas such as "epic" and "dark?" Is this because you like metal, or do you like metal because you like those other things?

 

[Krow]

 

[Eligos]

I get terribly sick of all this shit, honestly, and all the bullshit genre worship. And the escapist nature of metal.

 

[waif]

I was into fantasy stuff before I was into metal, and I definitely dug fantasy lyrics at first, but most of the bands I first got into didn't really sing about wizards (Metallica, Pantera, Slayer, RATM). When I first heard Dragonforce I thought it was pretty sweet that they sang about wizards'n'shit (they were the first power metal I heard, I think).

 

[mutantllama]

I got into both things for different reasons.

 

[Valerie]

I got into both things for different reasons.

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[Onder]

I hate fantasy. I was one of the few of my friends circle who went totally around fantasy books and shit like Magic cards when growing up. Even fucking pokemon and shit. Also, even if I did play computer games, I never played Heroes for example, everybody is like whoa when I mention that. Because I was even bigger nerd than that (really, back then fantasy was cool and beer and music were nerdy).

Well iirc, I did nothing really. But w/e.

 

[SentinelSlain]

Would you say you have a higher than average tolerance/enjoyment of fantasy, occult history, and succumbing to ideas such as "epic" and "dark?" Is this because you like metal, or do you like metal because you like those other things?

Wait till hubster comes on and tells you about his crystals and his dream catchers.

Tolkien type fantasy doesn't take up a big part of my interest / past times but I prefer metal with lyrics in that direction than 'relevant socially reflective ones' (gay nu metal lyrics).

The blood on your sword is the blood of a kings >>>>>>> Some of those that had anal sex where those that burnt nachos.

 

[mutantllama]

 

[Anticitizen One]

Well, I think I was attracted to dark and fantastical things in movies, cartoons, videogames, comics, etc. when I was young, before I ever got into metal. I was never interested in what I saw as generic D&D, though. Now, I don't listen to much metal that is all about wizards and mythical fantasy shit, but I don't mind stuff like that being older now and having more of a passing appreciation for Tolkienesque things. I'm much more interested in things like abstraction and sublimation in art, but dark escapist subject matter doesn't really bother me. When it's more along the lines of equal parts darkness & surrealism, I'm much more interested — things like Deathspell Omega, Katharsis, Portal, S.V.E.S.T., etc seem to define the aesthetics I find most pleasing. Mythical folklore and such is nice, though... When all that stuff is kinda mashed together, as black metal often does (same with neofolk, some of this "death worship" stuff, etc.), that can be pretty interesting.

 

[Pessimism]

Fantasy is a genre that takes and gives crap in equal proportions. Frankly I hate faggy elves and I also hate warcraft style anything. I like fantasy when it has undertones of reality in it (example; genocide, political subterfuge, etc) with locations that don't sound like someone slammed a keyboard over their dick whilst in the sex-throws of thinking about their prissy novel.

"The kuloichini are going to atack the magical forest of tiny-tindle-fits! Quickly my elvish brothers, hop upon your unicorns and ride for glory!" = fucking gay.



Now, the Song of Ice and Fire series is awesome. It starts out devoid of any o the typical fantasy stuff, and then slowly it starts emerging through the novel. To quote wiki on the influences of the novel:

Martin is an avid student of medieval Europe, and has said that the Wars of the Roses, along with many other events in Europe during that time, have influenced the series. However, he insists that "there's really no one-for-one character-for-character correspondence. I like to use history to flavor my fantasy, to add texture and verisimilitude, but simply rewriting history with the names changed has no appeal for me. I prefer to reimagine it all, and take it in new and unexpected directions."

Here's some random excerpt's from G.R.R.M's A Song of Ice and Fire:

Cersei: (her face bruising from Robert's blow) "I shall wear this as a badge of honor."
Robert Baratheon: "Wear it in silence or I'll honor you again."

Dolorous Edd talking about a previous battle before the upcoming one:

"You cheer me," said Edd, sounding utterly morose. "And besides, there's much to be said for a good sharp axe. I'd hate to be murdered with a maul. I saw a man hit in the brow with a maul once. Scarce split the skin at all, but his head turned mushy and swelled up big as a gourd, only purply-red. A comely man, but he died ugly. It's good that we're not giving them mauls." Edd walked away shaking his head....

EDITED OUT OF KINDNESS LOL

 

[waif]

That series is probably my favorite; I even named my band after it. It has some really funny moments, but it's generally pretty fucking dark, gritty, and violent. Machiavelli approves.

 

[Einherjar86]

Now, the Song of Ice and Fire series is awesome. It starts out devoid of any o the typical fantasy stuff, and then slowly it starts emerging through the novel. To quote wiki on the influences of the novel

Amazing series, but the last quote you posted involves one of the major plot twists!

That series is probably my favorite; I even named my band after it. It has some really funny moments, but it's generally pretty fucking dark, gritty, and violent. Machiavelli approves.

It used to be my favorite, but it has since been replaced by R. Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy. If you like dark, morose philosophical fantasy, it should be your cup of tea. Really amazing characters and storyline too.

 

[waif]

I'll give it a shot.

 

[TheInsane]

I tried to get into fantasy when I was a child. It probably wasnt because of metal but I might have tried a little harder in my early teens because of it. I never really got it though.

I did however get introduced to the occult through metal. I was probably always a thinker so it suited me well and once metal had introduced me I dwelled pretty deep into reading about it. I actually made it my main subject in my academic carreer.

 

[st3333phani3333]

I never really put two and two together. I mean, yes I like metal and yes, I like fantasy, but I never liked one because of the other. I just liked what I like and somehow it all seems to fit perfectly in my life. I like a lot more things then those two and it fits right in aswell. I am not really into the whole fantasy as much as I was a few years ago. Sure, I still have a few decks of cards and some books/guides, but they are not as ultimate to my life as they were then.

 

[Draehl]

I do enjoy both, but there's a definite line in fantasy that I won't cross. Take the Lord of the Rings movies for example. Half of those movies are are incredibly gay (most notably the Sam/Frodo portions... I skip those scenes if I ever watch the movies on DVD) But several others parts are quite badass. Fangorn Forest with the ents, Mines of Moria, any scene with the ring wraiths, etc.

If I could put it into metal genre terms: There's your Power Metal Fantasy and your Black Metal Fantasy. Hobbits, elves, saving princesses and the "glory of battle" are Power Metal fantasy. Dwarves, orcs, necromancers and all things that go bump in the night are your Black Metal fantasy. Both tend to exist in certain amounts in all fantasy, but one can avoid the gayer settings or in the case of RPGs, play as a more black metal class (I play a Warlock and a Deathknight in WoW as they do give your perspective a darker shade than otherwise...) I've had offers to play D&D with friends before but turned them down. Right now my buddy is working on essentially a Diablo ripoff campaign and that I'm highly considering joining. You can't beat trudging through catacombs and haunted monasteries slaughtering demons on your way to hell to kill el Diablo himself.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

D&D and metal. what else is there?

 

[damnromulans]

I am a tranquilly morbid goth at heart and as young as 10 I was reading books about porphyria (the "vampire disease") and I fell in love with the goth chick in my middle school in a non-gay way. From as long as I can remember the idea of "evil" and "satan" always titillated me. It still does to some extent but now my weird inner geek-fantasies revolve around romanticism and adulation of evil things. Obviously it makes me happy that music exists that addresses these interests.

 

[ThisIsACoolName]

D&D and metal. what else is there?

I'm DMing my current D&D campaign and a lot of the NPC dialogue is jacked from metal songs.