Methods of destroying a snare drum

[MEGA DAVE]

I don't know. The drummer insists on recording with his real drums and all. I would much rather use practice pads+cymbals, but gotta keep the customers happy right?

NO! Fuck man, you're the engineer. They're paying YOU for YOUR services. Thats like you telling someone else how to take care of their child.... You tell them straight up, if you want it done like this this is how it HAS to be done. What would you prefer, drummer getting his way then having those nasty elements in the end and everyone hating the whole thing, or doing it the right way and everyone happy in the end cuz it sounds great?? come on man... =)

P.S. - Practice pads and a stuffed bass drum. ONLY way to go if you're using the skins.

 

[zackpennington]

Tell them this is how Joey Sturgis does it. I do that all the time and it works.

 

[guitarguru777]

Tell them this is how Joey Sturgis does it. I do that all the time and it works.

HAHHAHAHHHAHAHA

 

[Joematthews]

Tell them this is how Joey Sturgis does it. I do that all the time and it works.

hahaha, I do that as well, no matter what I'm doing. Even if I'm just making coffee or some shit

 

[paladin shredder]

spray foam the inside of the kit.

 

[NSGUITAR]

Tell them this is how Joey Sturgis does it. I do that all the time and it works.

Haha.. I'm actually going to do that.

 

[JayB]

hahahah

 

[JeffTD]

You do realize that by micing the overheads and then programming the drums, to grid, without taking obscene amounts of time to line up each and every hit to the transient in the overheads, that you're going to get a lot of flamming? You really need to upgrade your equipment so you can mic every drum, quantize them to the desired tightness, and then convert those hits to MIDI to trigger your vsti or samples.

 

[NSGUITAR]

You do realize that by micing the overheads and then programming the drums, to grid, without taking obscene amounts of time to line up each and every hit to the transient in the overheads, that you're going to get a lot of flamming? You really need to upgrade your equipment so you can mic every drum, quantize them to the desired tightness, and then convert those hits to MIDI to trigger your vsti or samples.

I should have enough inputs for the drums. I could use 2 OH's, 2 snares, 3 toms and a kick mic.

Or am I wrong?

 

[Ben Johnson]

spray foam the inside of the kit.

 

[NSGUITAR]

I've been thinking.. Wouldn't recording just overheads and quantizing them to the grid, and then programming the rest be the same as recording ALL of the drums, quantizing and then triggering?


Either way, the snare transient could still be a little off in the overheads, while all of the other drums are perfectly on the grid.... Yes?

 

[guitarguru777]

No it wouldnt be the same, would it "sound" the same? yes it would, but you would save your self a good 8 or 9 hours probably by recording the drums on separate tracks and using a sample triggering program like Dramgog, apTrigga, or Slate Digital Trigger they can all trigger samples from .wav recordings. Shit if you wanted to teh drummer could play on pots and pans and it would still work.,,,,lol

 

[JamesNorman]

You do realize that by micing the overheads and then programming the drums, to grid, without taking obscene amounts of time to line up each and every hit to the transient in the overheads, that you're going to get a lot of flamming? You really need to upgrade your equipment so you can mic every drum, quantize them to the desired tightness, and then convert those hits to MIDI to trigger your vsti or samples.

100% agree man. Upgrading to using real mics. Which i now believe you have pres for??

Then using drumagog, slate trigger, etc to sample replace the kit would sound a lot more realistic and will help add a natural feel to the drums. Thats how alot of people are doing it these days.

 

[Fox Mulder]

1. Hipass at 500hz

2. Sidechain comp with the snare.

Attack - 0 to 0.1
Release - around 10 (depending on the tempo)
Gain reduction - Approximately 6db

3. Smash it with a comp.

 

[FloridaRolf]

Use a mesh head for the snare

 

[JeffTD]

I've been thinking.. Wouldn't recording just overheads and quantizing them to the grid, and then programming the rest be the same as recording ALL of the drums, quantizing and then triggering?


Either way, the snare transient could still be a little off in the overheads, while all of the other drums are perfectly on the grid.... Yes?

No, not at all. When you quantize the drums, the mics are all phase aligned and grouped - you edit every single track together, so the snare/tom hits ALWAYS line up with the hit in the overhead track. You have some leeway with kick tracks since it's mostly just a blur, but I quantize every kick hit besides really fast stuff that would take forever anyway.

 

[Dalinkwent48@aim.com]

Going by the questions you've been asking around here i'm gonna assume your not too schooled on drum programming either. You may get a better sound leaving the drums in the OH's and trying to blend them with the samples. It could give it a more human feel