Michael's Vibrato

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Is too damn wide most of the time and he applies it to every* goddamn note he plays, which ruins some moments for me. I'm talking about the live dvd of course.

What do you think?

*lie
 
I think it is a vital part of his style, and I think it sounds great most of the time.

I also think that lots of people are going to read this and not know wtf is being discussed.
 
Do you agree with me that it's really damn wide? I don't know...I've always been a fan of subtler vibrato use. As in singing, you shouldn't apply it to every longer note. Maybe it's just me.

I have another thing to bitch about. Lopez plays a few fills too many off that hihat of his. Especially in the pussy set.

Still, the DVD gets 10/10 points from me.

EDIT: My nick suggests that I'm sneaky and charming.
 
I personally love really wide vibratos during lead pauses, but when you are playing fast, they shouldn't be really used, or atleast not as wide. Personally, Im pretty sure he played the same way for the recordings, and I love those, so Im not bitching.
 
They work when he uses them during the solo parts, obviously, but I think when he adds them to riffs or whatever that didn't get recorded with those same vibratos, it tends to ruin the feel. I've said that much myself many times.

About Lopez though, I don't think anything too wankish about his playing, I actually think he does what he can to remain in the background yet make his drumming 'entertaining', not like your average chk crack chk crack chk crack metal drummer. I don't think he overdoes the fills at all. I actually love his fills.

Still if the Mike thing is a problem... focus on Peter's track, because he doesn't abuse the vibrato.
 
I love Lopez's drumming. It's really laid back and, as you said, entertaining. I just thought that he over uses the hihat a bit in the fills.

The vibrato is by no means a problem. It's just too wide and frequent for my tastes. After seeing the dvd, I've started to appreciate Peter bit more than I used to. He's a solid player, tall and also seems to be a quite handsom fellow.

Has anyone else noticed that in Death Whispered A Lullaby, his (Peter's) Les Paul's g-string might be a little out of tune?
 
Be amused. :tickled:

I wish I had something to say about the topic itself. Other than that Lopez seems like a really cool guy. As do all of them.
 
Yeah, something definately sounds a bit 'out' in Death Whispered a Lullaby. But if I recall playing taht riff back when I knew how to play it, there was a bar chord there and it was really easy to make it sound 'out of tune' by not fretting it right. Could also just be the fact its naturally disharmonic and he isn't using an acoustic guitar for it. I'll need to take a look at the song again, I haven't really paid much attention to that part.
 
Fuck I can't wait for the Lamentations DVD.

As for the topic, I myself tend to do a lot of bends, however I also change strings, keys and scales frequently as well to not overdo bends on the same notes, as that can sound very repetitive at times. I think every guitar player has (or should have) their own unique style, and if Mikael's playing style involves frequent wide bends then that is his style; whether you enjoy it or not... especially if those notes are on the recordings.

Mournful
 
Moonlapse said:
Yeah, something definately sounds a bit 'out' in Death Whispered a Lullaby. But if I recall playing taht riff back when I knew how to play it, there was a bar chord there and it was really easy to make it sound 'out of tune' by not fretting it right. Could also just be the fact its naturally disharmonic and he isn't using an acoustic guitar for it. I'll need to take a look at the song again, I haven't really paid much attention to that part.

e|------------------------
B|------------------------
G|---------0------------2-
D|-----4-----4--------2---
A|---4---4-----4----2-----
E|-2--------------3-------

That's how I play the intro (looks and sounds right to me, judging from the DVD).
Though I tend to get the same 'out of tune' sound on the last note (A) when I play it on a Les Paul. Strangely enough, it sounds better on a Strat, or something similar, I guess because the string tension is higher due the scale length.
You could also apply that theory for the album, where it was played on an Acoustic Guitar, the wound G-string gives for much more tension as opposed to a plain steel G string.

P.S: If anyone's got a full tab to this song (Death Whispered A Lullaby), please let me know.