MIXING TIME, SONG4: Full song inside(EVH5150mkiii)

thank you alex!

here's my mix:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5213028/Feared_5150_Paule.mp3

Guitars are ASEM Recto IR and a bit EQ.
Bass is EQd and compressed, there's also a heavy distorted midrange bass (thx ola for this tip!)
Drums are LSD Drums with a bit sneap snare. toms are samples i found at the internet (don't know the name) but they sound not good at all.

In my older mixes i've always mixed the snare way to loud but in this case it sounds good, even on my macbook speakers.

hope you like it :)
 
mietschie said:
my second mix of a full song ever, still got only addictive drums without toms and just one crash. Please tell me what i can do better, i'm new into mixing :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/52528604/ola ole zwo 1 master.mp3
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-guitar tone is sick
-bass tone seems very cool
-kick and snare are cool, but too dry : they lack some decay/reverb/room sound/etc
-cymbals sound like they are reversed... i believe you fucked up with compression, sounds like some huge pumping here. In general the drums sound like you fucked them up with poorly-done compression

EDIT : at the end you fucked up with track alignment... the lead/Extra/clean guitars should come up earlier during the song, not as an outro...

No offense but seriously did you listen to your project before posting ? Jeez...
 
Djabthrash said:
-guitar tone is sick
-bass tone seems very cool
-kick and snare are cool, but too dry : they lack some decay/reverb/room sound/etc
-cymbals sound like they are reversed... i believe you fucked up with compression, sounds like some huge pumping here. In general the drums sound like you fucked them up with poorly-done compression

EDIT : at the end you fucked up with track alignment... the lead/Extra/clean guitars should come up earlier during the song, not as an outro...

No offense but seriously did you listen to your project before posting ? Jeez...
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hey thank you for listening and your opinion about it, it only can help me doing better next time. I also expected that the drums are some kind of bad after hearing some of the other mixes, thanks for saying it so directly ;) should read a bit more about mixing the drums <- any suggestions what I can read?
I only heard the original track one time so i didn't realize that the alignment was a bit ...well yes fucked up in the end, another point I can improve listening more often how it should sound like^^
 
mietschie said:
hey thank you for listening and your opinion about it, it only can help me doing better next time. I also expected that the drums are some kind of bad after hearing some of the other mixes, thanks for saying it so directly ;) should read a bit more about mixing the drums <- any suggestions what I can read?
I only heard the original track one time so i didn't realize that the alignment was a bit ...well yes fucked up in the end, another point I can improve listening more often how it should sound like^^
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there are tons of threads on this forum and tutorials on youtube about mixing drums, use the search function and check out the stickied threads

Also : when you start out with mixing/producing in general, try to keep things simple at first, instead of venturing into stuff like compression without knowing why you're doing it. Try to go slow, read stuff, to your homework, try things yourself, understand what you're doing and why, and then extend to other stuff if necessary, using the same approach.
I hear tons of newbies putting out a shitty mix cause they ruined it with poor compression settings just because they heard "it's all about compression", whereas a guy using the "less is more and understand what you're doing at least" has more chance to put out something great, even with minimal processing.
 
Djabthrash said:
there are tons of threads on this forum and tutorials on youtube about mixing drums, use the search function and check out the stickied threads

Also : when you start out with mixing/producing in general, try to keep things simple at first, instead of venturing into stuff like compression without knowing why you're doing it. Try to go slow, read stuff, to your homework, try things yourself, understand what you're doing and why, and then extend to other stuff if necessary, using the same approach.
I hear tons of newbies putting out a shitty mix cause they ruined it with poor compression settings just because they heard "it's all about compression", whereas a guy using the "less is more and understand what you're doing at least" has more chance to put out something great, even with minimal processing.
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yea i totally aggree with you thanks again. I didn't really understand what I did with the compressors so i will try to get more into it. I appreciate your advice!
 
Here's the outro, i messed around with Stereo Imaging in Izotope, but i don't really know how to use it, so it might have screwed things up.
Lots of saturation on the guitars.



Horrible mastering on this one, but i'm gonna fix that later on with the full song.
 
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