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Well, you're twisting my words a bit. I'm not saying that I'm the best bass player in my country. I'm just an ok metal bass player who knows how to play tight, how to tune his instrument, how to make it ring all the time, how to lead a melody line and how to improvise. Who knows what pedals to use to make it sound good, what is dynamics, why the bass needs a noise gate as well, and so on and so on.

For me it is important to have someone who knows it all and uses this knowledge. And there are definitely such people. But all these dudes are not into metal at all. Session work, pop music, etc. And if we add my overgrown ego they have to obey... So, as you see, I'm the only one who can deal with it at the moment.

The rest of the guys are pros, I'm so proud to play together with them. But something is going terribly wrong with bass players in metal genre. I think you'll agree with me.

Unfortunately I hate singing and playing at the same time. It will just be a massive quality downgrade.

Fair enough man, I totally forgot to take into account that he'd also have to be into metal of course :lol:
Yeah I get what you mean...and Glenn agrees on that point too haha

And again, it didn't sound to me like "I'm the best bass player in this country", more like "I'm the best bass player for my band at this point".

Still, you wouldn't need to play the bass live, just have it hang there, looking awesome...just sayin' ;)

I'd really be interested in how many non-musicians even recognize the lack of a bass player on stage...
 
tell me more about my eyes you Ukrainian god :dopey:

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Mago: Well, yeah. There are Glenn and Geddy. Peavy Wagner from Rage. That guy from Teräsbetoni. By the way, a great, great singer, but I enjoyed his frontamnship so much more when he was performing with Northern Kings. Much more charisma. It's all subjective. You know, having free hands and communicating more with the audience. You can't scream hey hey hey to the audience when you have an offbeat bass groove going on there. Well you can but it's gonna be so much less sincere. I always enjoyed free-handed singers like Tony Martin (who is the multiinstrumentalist as far as I know), Rob Halford, Biff Byford.

But you definitely have planted a seed of thinking.
 
I watched the other videos you mentioned. I notice the improvement in the composition. Especially Weeping Bell. But i still like Grimoire :D

And to join into the debate of singer+instrument. I also like singers better when they also play an instrument live or maybe only act as if. I always disliked free hands, but that may be due to myself because i don't know what i should do with my hands on stage if i wouldn't hold an instrument. I even don't know it in discos etc. Having something in my hands is always necessary for me, best if it's a women :D, otherwise my hands go into the pocket.. So i may transfer this to other musicians too. I'm not a theatrical person and most of the time i find these gestures while singing a bit ridiculous. :D

Beside this, do you remember which synth you used for the Grimoire mainmelody (0:50)?
 
Mago: Well, yeah. There are Glenn and Geddy. Peavy Wagner from Rage. That guy from Teräsbetoni. By the way, a great, great singer, but I enjoyed his frontamnship so much more when he was performing with Northern Kings. Much more charisma. It's all subjective. You know, having free hands and communicating more with the audience. You can't scream hey hey hey to the audience when you have an offbeat bass groove going on there. Well you can but it's gonna be so much less sincere. I always enjoyed free-handed singers like Tony Martin (who is the multiinstrumentalist as far as I know), Rob Halford, Biff Byford.

But you definitely have planted a seed of thinking.


hahaha, well you're right of course, Mr. Hughes is a monster, but I referred to this video Glenn (Oz) made, regarding the Bass players in the metal scene ;)


Yeah I know what you mean, I have some parts in our songs where I don't have to play and can do stuff with my hands other than playing, which is pretty awesome...you can translate the lyrics a lot more that way, somehow.

But again, just food for thought...I guess for most non musicians in the audience it doesn't matter anyway...and everyone else shouldn't give a fuck, cause they're beeing blown away by the performance anyway :headbang:
 
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If you ask my opinion (and you sure as hell should!), it depends on the person, I think Max looks awesome as solely the singer, his stage presence and movements on stage are part of his performance, and strapping an instrument on him would only keep him unable to unlock his true potiential as a frontman. But of course, the opposite happens with other singers, take Mikael Akerfeldt for example, IMO he looks a bit too goofy in live Bloodbath videos because it's like he doesn't know what to do with his hands, while he's the god of gods with a guitar in his hands (seriously, his facial expressions and the way he handles the guitar makes an Opeth show so much more enjoyable). This is all personal opinion of course.
 
If you ask my opinion (and you sure as hell should!), it depends on the person, I think Max looks awesome as solely the singer, his stage presence and movements on stage are part of his performance, and strapping an instrument on him would only keep him unable to unlock his true potiential as a frontman.

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Ahhahah)) Damn! Yeah, I saw that video before I knew this was Glenn! I remember thinking "hmmm, that must be a pretty popular mindset among the sound engineers over there" :guh:

DanLights: Seems there's nothing left to discuss after your post, good Sir. That's exactly what I mean. When I was playing guitar in the band, I could drop it when singing, then start playing between verses and refrains. But I still think it's kinda lame, and you can't do that with bass:)

I perfectly remember my first gigs without guitar. I felt terribly stupid. And I have all the videos of these events. Looks fucking lame. You can draw a parallel with using a hands free mic! It's hard for me to sing in the studio without actually grabbing the mic and yelling into it! That's why I'm so much into Shure SM7 these days. And that's why I feel so terribly wrong seeing HELL singer performing:) But the man is so damn theatrical!
 
Ahhahah)) Damn! Yeah, I saw that video before I knew this was Glenn! I remember thinking "hmmm, that must be a pretty popular mindset among the sound engineers over there" :guh:

DanLights: Seems there's nothing left to discuss after your post, good Sir. That's exactly what I mean. When I was playing guitar in the band, I could drop it when singing, then start playing between verses and refrains. But I still think it's kinda lame, and you can't do that with bass:)

I perfectly remember my first gigs without guitar. I felt terribly stupid. And I have all the videos of these events. Looks fucking lame. You can draw a parallel with using a hands free mic! It's hard for me to sing in the studio without actually grabbing the mic and yelling into it! That's why I'm so much into Shure SM7 these days. And that's why I feel so terribly wrong seeing HELL singer performing:) But the man is so damn theatrical!

The singer for HELL is the only guy in the metal world who could possibly pull off singing hands free, and he's fucking GOOD at it.
 
The singer for HELL is the only guy in the metal world who could possibly pull off singing hands free, and he's fucking GOOD at it.

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DLR tried to pull this off on the last van halen tour and well... the results are on youtube and they are not pretty
 
Well, mic or mic with a stand are great tools to keep your hands busy and to be expressive at the same time. The frontman has to be really experienced with that handsfree thingie to do it right. Plus, it has to suit his image. What I found the most scary with these mics attached to your face is that you can't move away to cough, sneeze or actually try out a note with your mouth shut:) Just another level of discipline.