My new bizarre "Guitar-Rig"
- Thread starter blackbird
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Mutant
I hate that supercow !
ReliXKeepeR said:Hah, the IR is great idea here!
IR of what ? The speaker ?
Are you kidding ?
AFAIK it's impossible to capture an impulse of a dynamic system like a Metal Zone or a power amp.
kaomao
Member
what?
Actually all the impulses been posted on here are the response of :
poweramp->cab->mic.
So if blackbird post an IR of that radio, what he's gonna do is the response of
poweramp, or let's say the preamp (I don't think he's bypassing the pre section)->speaker->mic.
Actually all the impulses been posted on here are the response of :
poweramp->cab->mic.
So if blackbird post an IR of that radio, what he's gonna do is the response of
poweramp, or let's say the preamp (I don't think he's bypassing the pre section)->speaker->mic.
Mutant
I hate that supercow !
kaomao said:
I mean it is impossible to capture preamp and poweramp saturation only speaker's and mic's frequency response.
Just try to set your preamp to high gain and capture the impulse, then put your guitar through this impulse and it will sound clean (and horrible) - no distortion.
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
The idea is to capture the impulse of the poweramp, cab, mic and mic preamp, then you run your preamp through this impulse, with the signal already distorted. It then sounds like your preamp is running through their poweramp/cab/mic/mic preamp (their being the person who created the impulse).
kaomao
Member
I don't think so, when you're taking an impulse you're capturing all the sound.
If not why a lot of people are capturing pod sounds, eq stuff, reverb units....
If not why a lot of people are capturing pod sounds, eq stuff, reverb units....
Mutant
I hate that supercow !
cobhc said:
Oh the language barrier
The best way to capture an IR of cab, mic and mic preamp is to use a 100% Hifi chain before the cab.
Convolution can't capture saturation it's just not how it works.
If it could there would be no need for ampsims you would just capture your 5150 and use the impulse.
Mutant
I hate that supercow !
ReliXKeepeR said:
Lololololololol !
Just go to Noisevault forum and ask the experts if it possible to capture IR of dynamics altering equipment like a distortion, a preamp or a poweramp (non solid state), a compressor or an expander.
The only useful thing Dimitar can capture is his mic and room reverb, because the cab is Hifi and i'm pretty sure that Hifi cabs have (depending on their quality) a very flat frequency response.
kaomao
Member
Ok we're capturing a static situation... but hey man if on my 5150 I set the resonance to 5 and record it and then I set it to 2 and record this too, the resulted impulses are different. They won't sound the same.
Tell me why people are capturing eq units or pod impulses then ???
I found a guy on the net who captured the response of all amps on the old pod 2.0.
He set all controls flat, what he had was a vast array of pod sounds, you can't set the bass or mids to your likings but you have a "picture of that particular situation"
Read this
Tell me why people are capturing eq units or pod impulses then ???
I found a guy on the net who captured the response of all amps on the old pod 2.0.
He set all controls flat, what he had was a vast array of pod sounds, you can't set the bass or mids to your likings but you have a "picture of that particular situation"
Read this
Mutant
I hate that supercow !
kaomao said:
Convolution is a linear process.
Convolution can emulate:
speakers
equalizers and very basic filters
reverbs and room sound
delay
etc.
Convolution can not emulate:
distortions
tube preamps
tube poweramps
compressors
expanders
pitch shifters
advanced filters (self oscillating for example)
etc.
Obviously convolution is pretty much pointless if you want to emulate Hifi speakers because they just (try to) output as unchanged sound as possible.
some rhythm guitars as I promised I sketched out this artificial rhythm and I'm impressed by that old radio,,,
No additional processing though
http://nalbantov.muzikant.org/Radio_RTM_BossMT2_Ibanez2550.mp3
about the IR impulses I will make them sooner or later...Stay in touch ;-)
I sketched out this artificial rhythm and I'm impressed by that old radio,,,No additional processing though
http://nalbantov.muzikant.org/Radio_RTM_BossMT2_Ibanez2550.mp3
about the IR impulses I will make them
sooner or later...Stay in touch ;-)blackbird said:about the IR impulses I will make them
Nope, you cannot make them! Go and ask some experts in the Noisevault Forum
Mutant
I hate that supercow !
ReliXKeepeR said:Nope, you cannot make them! Go and ask some experts in the Noisevault Forum
Of course he can but they will not sound like a real thing.
You gave me an idea !!! I will make millions selling IRs of hifi speakers and even better...
of studio monitors !!!
(Genelec etc) and even better !!!!!I will make a pure white noise IR and i will sell it as an impulse of a perfect studio monitor !!!
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
blackbird said:some rhythm guitars as I promised
No additional processing though
http://nalbantov.muzikant.org/Radio_RTM_BossMT2_Ibanez2550.mp3
about the IR impulses I will make them
not too bad man
, still sounds like a mt2 though lol
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
Mutant said:
Actually most hi-fi speakers boost the highs and lows to make the audio sound more "Hi-Fi" as most non-audiophile listeners prefer this sound. Where as monitor speakers output the signal as flat as possible.
Mutant
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cobhc said:
Sure most of them do it and i don't see how it can be beneficial in a guitar->amp recording situation
I wonder where is the line separating non-audiophile and audiophile speakers ?
