myspace replacing band webpages

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Gee, what a surprise!

But, actually, I'm quite happy with the state of metal today, so I think you misunderstood a little. My concern was in regards to the future.

In truth, I haven't been this excited about new bands in over ten years! With curtains finally having opened for bands such as Orodruin, Fall of the Idols, Hour of 13 and all those true doom bands, in addition to favourites such as The Chasm, Summoning and Deströyer 666 still releasing fa-fucking-tastic music, all is well!

But when it all comes down it, the masterminds behind those bands are still of my generation, people who developed their tastes before all this myspace nonsense. I am concerned - concerned being the keyword here, as I can't predict the future - with what will happen when it's time for the next generation to step up to the plate. Could be brilliant, could be plastic, sterile rubbish, I am merely pointing out a possible problem in regards to future developments...

I find this much more agreeable than what you originally posted. And yes, I should retract my statement that your stance is "ridiculous" as that was a little too inflammatory.

Bad analogy. The quality on the physical album is the product you're marketing. Unless somebody's employing some zany new business strategy of inviting all your fans into the recording studio to hear the masters, the difference between them is negligible. But your point stands. MySpace is a promotional tool, and an effective one at that.

Point taken, but I don't feel as if my analogy (if you could even call it that) is very far off; though the CD is what's being marketed, extremely anal people (as I said, the same who would complain about stupid negligible things such as Myspace re-encoding uploaded songs) would say that the CD itself is fucking with some kind of immaculate artistic purity to be experienced only in raw form through live shows or studio recording sessions.

Anyway, the site basically says "we need to process these and put them on our server so only upload your shit if you think this is OK and not a compromise" so I doubt anyone holds the position I stated for the most part.

 

[Jreg]

Ah, well it's not exactly something I'd lose sleep over either way. Simply re-encoding files I can understand, as it's probably the only way to make that band page interface of theirs run smoothly. I was just under the impression that they were taking other "liberties" with them than just practical adjustments, and that struck me as kind of odd.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Yes it is stupid but Myspace is shady...all their external links go through some kind of weird server (msplinks) which they own...sounds shifty.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Seriously...



Uh...what? Why don't you check out the Post Your Hauls thread and tell me buying music looks like it's going down noticeably. No matter how many people are downloading things exclusively, there are always those downloading AND buying or those just spending their entire paychecks on new music. The people who really like will buy. This still hasn't changed very much and is drastically overstated by most people. Regardless your point is almost irrelevant; there is no connection between a band putting up to 6 songs on Myspace and the music-buying economy going down...

I was speaking about the purchasing of music via downloading (courtesy of the iPod generation). I don't think CDs will ever completely die out but they may become like vinyls and sell more exclusively which was what I was talking about.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Buying music via downloading is a FUCKING HORRIBLE thing to do for the consumer. I don't much know about its benefit to manufacturers (esp. those labels who shell out money to make CDs available to buy). Why pay for music you can't hold is what I say...when I buy music it's because I look forward to or enjoy having the actual physical thing to check out. The packaging and booklet/cover art/liner notes/etc. are very important to me...I hate people who legally purchase downloadable songs. Fuck off and die!

 

[Manic Ferocity]

I agree but it may unfortunately come to that.

 

[MasterOLightning]

Not to mention that 99 cents a song is a veritable assraping. I wouldn't even think about buying downloadable music unless it was in the neighborhood of 10-20 cents a song, which reflects the actual value of an mp3.

The actual cost to provide downloadable content is maybe a few cents, right? I'm sure that less than one cent of every song is actually artist royalties. If artists got a significant chunk of that 99 cents, then maybe it would be worth considering.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Where the hell did you read that 10-20 cents is the actual value of an mp3?! Not that I really care to argue that (I wouldn't even buy digital music for that price, to be honest) but that's an interesting number...mp3s are just digitally encoded audio files which are freely available as data on the Internet. They shouldn't really have a cost at all.

Re: profit turning, the music industry has NEVER had a fucking problem raping the consumer with ridiculous margins for money gain. I mean, how much does ONE CD cost to make, 50 cents + screenprinting charges? Check out that 15 DOLLAR TURNAROUND!

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Fuck the music industry.

 

[cookiecutter]

Every industry does that, why do people even care anymore.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Because I care more about music than anything else with a large industry attached and dislike seeing it raped beyond comprehension.

 

[cookiecutter]

Just be cynical like me. It's fun.

 

[Zephyrus]

Keep in mind that most Myspace band pages are run by a third party. Tons of bands never intend to create a myspace but fans do it for them.


And it appears that the rival Facebook is trying to get into the game. Very recently have people on Facebook had the option to become fans of a band through band pages. I wouldn't be surprised if these band pages started having streaming mp3's on them, just like Myspace.

 

[The Ozzman]

Facebook is superior to MySpace anyway

 

[Zephyrus]

For friends, yes, obviously.

But as far as the relevant issue, Facebook cannot yet imitate Myspace's capacity for bands.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Keep in mind that most Myspace band pages are run by a third party. Tons of bands never intend to create a myspace but fans do it for them.


And it appears that the rival Facebook is trying to get into the game. Very recently have people on Facebook had the option to become fans of a band through band pages. I wouldn't be surprised if these band pages started having streaming mp3's on them, just like Myspace.

Re: official/non-official band pages...actually I've found a lot more to be official than unofficial...that's from my own experience though (and I think it's probably right and just to assume that I have been to more bands' Myspaces than you have No offense at all but I felt the need to point it out).

Re: Facebook...it's only right for them to ripoff a Myspace capability since Myspace recently ripped off some Facebook style things (mood/status updates, subscription thing that lets you focus on certain friends to learn new information about whenever they update stuff, etc.).

 

[Zephyrus]

Actually if you look at some more popular bands (as in not extremely underground), they usually have one official page (which may be deemed official by the band yet run by a third party) and then you see another 5 or so copy-cat pages, some without even a picture or song samples.

 

[skeptik]

Well most normal people would go to the official one, and, being that the band has an official one, they obviously approve of using myspace for promoting their band.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

That's silly and I wouldn't count bands who have random fan pages so greedy people can upload songs illegally into the public domain to be part of your theory.

 

[ShredHeadJHJ]

What a fucking douche you are.

You seem to be a very mature adult.