need help with mix (death/metalcore. real drums, gtrs 6506->orange cab. drop F)

[Tim HLAH]

I've been really frustrated with this mix. No matter what i do, it stays cloudy/muddy and just lacks clarity overall imo. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Gtrs are 6505 -> orange cab, miked with 57 and 7b. Drums are all live miked, but does have a kick sample blended with original.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9173449/mixes/song 6 may 9.mp3


updated mix:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9173449/mixes/song 6 may10 b.mp3

 

[IMIUT]

Make a snare more vivid. Mix with him a good sample. Snare needs more attack and punch. Drum skeleton song should be stronger)

 

[oroinvictus]

IMIUT is right, you definitely need some stronger drums.

 

[Tim HLAH]

thanks, i agree aswell. any advice to make them stronger? im trying not to use samples but will if i cant bring this mix to life.

what exactly do you mean by drum skeleton ?

 

[IMIUT]

Drums is the skeleton song, guitar is muscle, vocal is the soul, the mixing of this figure, but mastering it is clothes and image) I recently worked on a project with live drums in the style of despised icon. Snarel sounded lifeless and without energy, and a complete replacement of the sample did not sound alive. I mixed a live track from the drain and get well. Drums need more energy. Compression, distortion, limitation will help you overclock the drums. They need to pump up with steroids), but did not make them dirty. My strategy is clear, sharp, short sound of drums in this genre)

 

[Tim HLAH]

thanks, il see what i can do

 

[Tim HLAH]

here is an updated mix.
i went ahead and sample replaced the snare and toms aswell. also tried to carve more of a space for gtrs, bass and vox.

any advice on areas to improve it?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9173449/mixes/song 6 may10 b.mp3