Need some advice on Mics/Amp/Cab

[ShamStalin]

I am now in the process of renovating my small home studio, adding a [multi purpose booth haha], for guitar/vox/e.drums. I used to record my guitar direct into my Focusrite preamp --> Amp Sim. Now since I got the booth, thinking of buying real Amp + Cab, need some suggestion in buying mics for miking, vocal, acoustic guitars. I have Focusrite Saffire Pro40, there's built in mic preamps inside, is it necessary to get another specific Mic Preamps? and also need some suggestion for good amp/cab @_@

 

[TheWinterSnow]

External mic preamps shouldn't be a huge concern considering the sapphire preamps are ace for the price.

For guitars the workhorse for micing guitar cabs is the SM57. Vocals at least for harder music hands down is the SM7B. Other vocal mics are out there, but the reality is the good workhorse vocal mics are expensive and a lot of it comes down to taste. Anything along the lines of AT4040, , The Shure KSM series, MD421, e906 and AKG C 214 or C414 if you have the money. Any of condensers in my previous list would also work great for acoustic guitar.

 

[ShamStalin]

External mic preamps shouldn't be a huge concern considering the sapphire preamps are ace for the price.

For guitars the workhorse for micing guitar cabs is the SM57. Vocals at least for harder music hands down is the SM7B. Other vocal mics are out there, but the reality is the good workhorse vocal mics are expensive and a lot of it comes down to taste. Anything along the lines of AT4040, , The Shure KSM series, MD421, e906 and AKG C 214 or C414 if you have the money. Any of condensers in my previous list would also work great for acoustic guitar.

Thanks for suggestion TheWinter

Hurm, got one guy want to sell used Neumann 87 Ai for 1k USD, I'm afraid if it is a clone/replica/fake mic, is there any chance to check whether its a genuine mic? Hurm quite interested with the SM7B mic, looks like lots of Metalhead here prefer the SM7B hehe. How about Amp/Cab, Blackstar/Bugera/Dual Terror? haha @_@ *dilemma*

I have not much experience in micing up Cab, most of you guys here use how many mics when micing the cab?

 

[Vinny]

Bugeras are best when not used at all.
Haha, but seriously consider a more reliable amp head.

Try getting a used 5150 or 6505, they are pretty much standard and you can get them for ~$600.
I'm gonna get some Avatar cabs too with V30s, and those are only $500.

As said previously, SM57 for guitars. You can't go wrong.
Sm7b for screams. It's good for singing too depending on the vocalist.
Might wanna look at an AT4050 for singing vox and acoustic guitar
Oktava MK012s are great for acoustics aswell, and double as amazing overhead mics.

 

[guitarguru777]

Amps: If you are looking for pure affordability and good tones check out the Bugera amps. If you can find a used 5150 even better.

Cabs: If your in the US Avatar UK or over seas, Harley Benton quality v30 loaded cabs at GREAT prices.

Mics: SM57, my GO TO for guitars, snare, and even vocals. Colin Richardson is a HUGE SM57 for vocals guy and I have always loved his shit!

 

[colonel kurtz]

audix i5 can be awesome in any situation where a 57 might also be used as well...i know i prefer it on snares pretty much always, and occasionally on guitars and vocals

 

[TwoGOneSee]

+1 to Audix i5 on the snare.

 

[Shinozoku]

Bugeras are best when not used at all.
Haha, but seriously consider a more reliable amp head..

You do realize the reliability issues with those were sorted out about 4 years ago?

To the OP: If you're on a budget, Studio Projects T3 or C3 (either or. T3 is warmer, C3 is cleaner). It should work well in multiple settings. Peluso P12 if you've got the cash for drum room mic, vocal mic, guitar cab, etc.

 

[ashgallows]

a sure sm 57 or sm7 in conjunction with the best condensor you can find for the guitars (condensor pulled back several feet, the dynamic a few inches away). same way for vocals so you can blend a sound further away with the dry direct one. I realized this after thinking about snares and how dry they dont sound quite right but after some room is added in it sounds like it does on a record.

 

[chrisrivalry]

I think an important question you need to ask yourself is if you see a need to purchase a backline rig, are all of your clients usually without a solid amp setup?
Because if they're mainly local acts with at least one decent setup then I don't see the point in purchasing one when they can just as easily bring there one, and we all know how much guitar players love their own "tone" (ahem mids scooped and gain to 11 with lows blasting the fucking speakers out of the cab)

either way, if you're dealing with bands that don't have any sort of a quality rig then it might benefit you to get a decent backline as was already suggested. If you find that you're dealing with bands that have their own, I would spend the money on mics, preamps, or some more acoustic treatment for your room.