NWO or Disaster Prepardness?

[John_C]

It's too late for your side of the pond... you already have employment problems due to unskilled labor excesses, surveillance and nanny-state bullshit that's *advertised*, and, as far as I recall, a wish list where a bill of rights should be. Get working.

Jeff

Heyy we do ok. I do agree the we are in danger of our government having too much power, the "war" on terror is acting as an excuse for some pretty bad human rights abuses (or at least legislation that could lead to them). Still, we've got a national health service

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Just 2 weeks ago i was taken to jail for a P.I. becouse i didnt asnwer questions in a timely manner.

You didn't have to answer anything. "Right to remain silent" Is still in effect, is it not? Get a lawyer & go after the cop for wrongful arrest.

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Think about it. Most of the people the U.S. National Guard will be protecting will be possibly neighbors, friends, and family and would think twice before taking orders to shoot to kill at a crowd.

And that theory worked real well in Ohio back in the 60s.

 

[updog]

This is what the US will look like in the coming years:

A lethal pandemic known as the "Gray Death" ravages the world's population, especially within the United States, and has no cure. A synthetic vaccine, "Ambrosia", manufactured by the company VersaLife, nullifies the effects of the virus, but is in critically short supply. Because of its scarcity, Ambrosia is available only to those deemed "vital to the social order", and finds its way primarily to government officials, military personnel, the rich and influential, scientists, and the intellectual elite. With no hope for the common people of the world, riots occur worldwide, and a number of terrorist organizations have formed with the professed intent of assisting the downtrodden, among them the National Secessionist Force of the US and a French group known as Silhouette.

In order to combat these threats to the world order, the United Nations has greatly expanded its governmental influence around the globe. The United Nations Anti-Terrorist Coalition (UNATCO) is formed, with the intent of maintaining peace internationally and combating the world's ever-growing number of terrorist groups. It will be headquartered near New York City in a bunker beneath Liberty Island, placed there after a terrorist strike on the Statue of Liberty.

I know, because my friend works for FEMA.

 

[MarcusGHedwig]

 

[John_C]

This is what the US will look like in the coming years:

A lethal pandemic known as the "Gray Death" ravages the world's population, especially within the United States, and has no cure. A synthetic vaccine, "Ambrosia", manufactured by the company VersaLife, nullifies the effects of the virus, but is in critically short supply. Because of its scarcity, Ambrosia is available only to those deemed "vital to the social order", and finds its way primarily to government officials, military personnel, the rich and influential, scientists, and the intellectual elite. With no hope for the common people of the world, riots occur worldwide, and a number of terrorist organizations have formed with the professed intent of assisting the downtrodden, among them the National Secessionist Force of the US and a French group known as Silhouette.

In order to combat these threats to the world order, the United Nations has greatly expanded its governmental influence around the globe. The United Nations Anti-Terrorist Coalition (UNATCO) is formed, with the intent of maintaining peace internationally and combating the world's ever-growing number of terrorist groups. It will be headquartered near New York City in a bunker beneath Liberty Island, placed there after a terrorist strike on the Statue of Liberty.

I know, because my friend works for FEMA.

 

[shred101]

Ambrosia", manufactured by the company VersaLife, nullifies the effects of the virus, but is in critically short supply

wtf... theyve got cans of it in my local store. And how does custard cure a virus anyway?




DISCLAIMER: English Humour.

 

[egan.]

You didn't have to answer anything. "Right to remain silent" Is still in effect, is it not? Get a lawyer & go after the cop for wrongful arrest.

That isn't how miranda works as it turns out. The "right to remain silent" refers to post arrest interrogation, not pre arrest questioning. There are plenty of instances where in local law refusal of self incrimination is in fact justification for arrest. Refusing a breathalizer for example is a ticket straight to jail in most states.

 

[Wolfeman]

That isn't how miranda works as it turns out. The "right to remain silent" refers to post arrest interrogation, not pre arrest questioning. There are plenty of instances where in local law refusal of self incrimination is in fact justification for arrest. Refusing a breathalizer for example is a ticket straight to jail in most states.

Yep. Refusing to give your name or furnish ID when a police officer asks you for it is grounds for arrest also.

 

[Glenn Fricker]

Wow... up here, a police officer has to have probable cause to even ask to see your ID. (something I really wish I knew when I was a teenager, was constantly harassed.) Refusing a breathalyzer up here will land you in jail, too....
I'm not sure how it varies from state to state, but I'm sure a cop couldn't demand you incriminate yourself, say, over a speeding ticket.

 

[JBroll]

I was under the impression that probable cause was needed to require identification; being taken downtown for 24 hours, though, isn't quite so closely scrutinized. Wolfeman, are you sure that you're not just dealing with Ohio uniformed twattery?

Jeff

 

[Wolfeman]

I was under the impression that probable cause was needed to require identification; being taken downtown for 24 hours, though, isn't quite so closely scrutinized. Wolfeman, are you sure that you're not just dealing with Ohio uniformed twattery?

Jeff

Well I'm actually OPATA certified(Ohio Peace Officer Training Academy) and have a degree in law enforcement, so I know how the Ohio twattery works

I should have been more specific with my post. The police here don't need probable cause to get your info, all they need is 'reasonable suspicion'.

Reasonable suspicion in Ohio is pretty much anything the officer wants. So if he is asking for your info anyway, he already has a reason for it. Or he can at least make up a reason pretty easily.

I don't know how it works in other states, but that's the way it works under the Ohio Revised Code.

Edit- I should also add, that when trained in the area of probable cause and reasonable suspicion, they teach you how to manipulate the fine line to always come out above the 'suspect'. The law makes it pretty easy for police to get away with some assholish shit. But the law also does a good job at letting criminals get away with murder, so I suppose it's a lose/lose on both ends.

 

[Wolfeman]

I'm not sure how it varies from state to state, but I'm sure a cop couldn't demand you incriminate yourself, say, over a speeding ticket.

Actually, at least in Ohio, any speeding violation is an automatic admission of guilt. That's why it's pretty damn hard to get out of a ticket completely.

 

[JBroll]

Wolfeman, that's not the case here, at least... there are situations where providing available identification is required (like in a traffic incident, where you need to be carrying them anyway).

Every time I hear about anything involving Ohio and law enforcement I feel a little bit worse about everything.

Jeff

 

[Wolfeman]

Wolfeman, that's not the case here, at least... there are situations where providing available identification is required (like in a traffic incident, where you need to be carrying them anyway).

Every time I hear about anything involving Ohio and law enforcement I feel a little bit worse about everything.

Jeff

That's why I'm moving