Old skool orchid/morningrise Vibe....!!!....u think they'll ever visit that again...?
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Zephyrus said:
2 great things about old opeth: 1. a different riff followed by a different riff followed by...gives so much replay value. They took a big step down when they started with the structured, "repetitive" songwriting on MAYH rather then continuing to perfect their original sound.
2. no reliance on clean vocals. Mikael's clean vocs don't come in on orchid till the last song, and sparingly on Morningrise too. Don't get me wrong I love his clean vocals, but I feel its overused now.
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Mikaels Clean vox, even though i love them, they were used sparingly and it put a massive impact on them when he did. Still ive never really given it much thought until now.
Frosties said:
Ok sorry at the end of Forest of October he goes "ahhhhhhh-ahhhhhhh-aahhhhhhhhhhh" and he whispers cleanly at the beginning of In Mist She was Standing
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I like having more clean vocals. He's got such an amazing voice I'd be dissapointed not to hear it.
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Scarlett Letterman said:Ok sorry at the end of Forest of October he goes "ahhhhhhh-ahhhhhhh-aahhhhhhhhhhh" and he whispers cleanly at the beginning of In Mist She was Standing
"Burn the winter landmarks
That said I was there
Burn the spirit of cold
That travel through my soul"
"Gazing unto the stars
Please, take me there"
"Unto you I whisper
The wildest dreams"
"The birds of the sun
Separates these dark clouds
While the winds of winter sleeps gently around
I am sworn to the oath
To breathe..."
"Under your command I will obey
In my vision
You are the embodiment of pure freedom
But through my eyes you are made of stone"
Did you even listen the album?
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Scarlett Letterman said:
you've got your terms mixed up. it's called "cohesive," not repetetive. idk where you're getting the repetition thing from either, because it doesn't happen a whole lot.
lol wtf, go listen to orchid again. there's clean vocals all over the place.
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Clean vocals all over the place on Orchid??? Have you listened to the same record I have? There's only clean vocals on about 0.1% of the music whereas now it's more like 50%.
It would be nice if they´d go little bit towards their early sound. The sound that they have on the new album doesn´t quite please. The songs on the new album are good but the sound... oh man the sound... I just cannot like it.
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Opethian666 said:
alright, they arent nearly as common as they are now, but theres some on almost every song. i think you also have to keep in mind that when orchid was released, clean vocals weren't really something you'd expect to hear on an album like this.
i think there might be too much clean on GR. i liked when it was mostly reserved for the really bombastic, kick ass moments like on SL and MAYH (end of when, moonlaspse, spd, etc). i guess it's good that mike is trying new things with when he uses the cleans, cant use the same formula forever.
saut said:
I just meant how they repeat certain sections and come back to them later is repetive relative to orchid and morningrise, thats why i put double quotations round it. The obvious example being the "devious movements" part in Bleak, if that were a radio song it would hit that line three times, post MR Opeth hits it twice, pre MAYH opeth would just hit it once. Might seem trivial but it gives replayability.
Moonstruck said:"Burn the winter landmarks
That said I was there
Burn the spirit of cold
That travel through my soul"
"Gazing unto the stars
Please, take me there"
"Unto you I whisper
The wildest dreams"
"The birds of the sun
Separates these dark clouds
While the winds of winter sleeps gently around
I am sworn to the oath
To breathe..."
"Under your command I will obey
In my vision
You are the embodiment of pure freedom
But through my eyes you are made of stone"
Did you even listen the album?
Yeah jeez your right, but still, that seems like a lot in writing but it really takes up very little of the vocals.
I mean the clean vocs weren't made the focal point and used as the 'hook', you know?
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saut said:
Absolutely agree with this. I think the clean vocals work better when Mike uses death vocals to build up to them just like the songs you mentioned. The build up is awesome but the clean vocal bits on those songs are incredible.
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Scarlett Letterman said:
Of course there were less clean vocals then nowadays, but you said that only TAIT has clean lyrical singing, which is of course untrue. Almost every Orchid song has some clean vocals, it was already a part of the Opeth sound.
