Opeth bus driver arrested for porn charges

Silent Song said:
then, in my opinion, we need to re-examine the way our society educates itself. 200 years ago, people of that age were ruling nations.

200 years ago, most 16 year olds were not rulers, though I understand what you mean. Teenage brains are still developing, especially in the physical ability to make good decisions. See this article.

I'm not saying you can't fault a 16 year old girl for doing something stupid, but she probably wasn't equipped to handle it correctly. This is why laws exist about this. Her parents also should have been way more involved.
 
it just seems like recent history has made society as a whole more stupid. we've lost our survival instincts and discipline of mind. while this can be seen as an advantage - longer period of youth "innocence" - it also, if continuing, will mean people won't be able to handle anything.
 
Silent Song said:
it just seems like recent history has made society as a whole more stupid. we've lost our survival instincts and discipline of mind. while this can be seen as an advantage - longer period of youth "innocence" - it also, if continuing, will mean people won't be able to handle anything.

Agree 100%.

What's even weirder is that women reach sexual maturity earlier while people seem to be reaching mental maturity later. I don't like the implications of that...
 
Oinkness said:
No no, why would they take responsibility? They just hired the guy to drive them all over, and they paid his bills... Got him driving all over the US with a computer full of porn and a camera, and victoms accross the US... naw its not their problem. I mean its not like they drove around the US with this guy, its not like they didn't give him a background check.

What the fuck would a background check have done? He was convicted for dealing coke, sure, but how in any way would that have precluded him raping some girl? In all likelihood, Opeth had nothing to do with hiring this guy - they rented a bus, and probably went through that company to hire a driver. This is not Opeth's fault in any way, shape, or form. Oinkness, you continue your streak of not grasping the way life works at all.

What next, they should hire a serial murderor and drive around the U.S.... sweet...

Yes, this point makes perfect sense and isn't batshit crazy at all.
 
Just a few tidbits to throw in:

The girl in question ran away from home. There were some issues between her and her mom, which will no doubt be addressed by the state authorities when they return.

16 is the legal age of consent in Florida, however, luring a minor across state lines for sex is a felony.

It seems to me that in order for a person to get a commercial chauffer's license, there would be some kind of background check, especially for someone convicted of narcotics dealing.

The guy will be going away for a good long time. Child porn is not taken lightly anywhere in the US, and as there have been several recent local events of girls being abducted, raped, and killed, the state of Florida will put the fuck away for a long time.

Opeth in no way has any responsibility in this matter, however, as they were in contact with this guy daily for weeks, they should release a press statement denouncing the horrid behavior of the individual and offering complete cooperation with authorities.

My fear in this is that even though we believe the band is not invovled and I believe that the bus driver even said as much, the way US immigration works, they might flag the Opeth boys and give them shit the next time they try to get work visas.
 
Sanzen said:
What the fuck would a background check have done? He was convicted for dealing coke, sure, but how in any way would that have precluded him raping some girl? In all likelihood, Opeth had nothing to do with hiring this guy - they rented a bus, and probably went through that company to hire a driver. This is not Opeth's fault in any way, shape, or form. Oinkness, you continue your streak of not grasping the way life works at all.



Yes, this point makes perfect sense and isn't batshit crazy at all.

Oinkness has brain damage. You'll have to excuse him.
 
16-year olds never ruled nations .... it's not because a young boy sits on the throne, that he rules the land! and teenagers always have been irresponsible and rebellious, nothing new.

the reason for people being so stupid nowadays according to me has much to do with television, popular music (wich portraits women as whores) and capitalism/commercialism/free trade .... all of wich promote shallowness and stupidity on a huge scale. lots of kids don't even get the chance to develop possible intelligence, as they are urged to fit in with those shallow patterns, often even thaught so by their parents ... (e.g. parents who also like R&B that teaches their daughter to be a whore, or their son to be a "gangsta" without any brains)!
 
Scott B said:
Opeth in no way has any responsibility in this matter, however, as they were in contact with this guy daily for weeks, they should release a press statement denouncing the horrid behavior of the individual and offering complete cooperation with authorities.

My fear in this is that even though we believe the band is not invovled and I believe that the bus driver even said as much, the way US immigration works, they might flag the Opeth boys and give them shit the next time they try to get work visas.
Since they obviously have no connection to this guy (other than being a hired driver) I don't see how it could cause problems for them being let into the country again. The only outside party that I could see catching some heat would be the company that hired the driver, but it would be hard for them to even know. I imagine that the next time the booking agency for Opeth will choose a different company, and maybe a female bus driver.
 
Black Session said:
16-year olds never ruled nations .... it's not because a young boy sits on the throne, that he rules the land! and teenagers always have been irresponsible and rebellious, nothing new.

the reason for people being so stupid nowadays according to me has much to do with television, popular music (wich portraits women as whores) and capitalism/commercialism/free trade .... all of wich promote shallowness and stupidity on a huge scale. lots of kids don't even get the chance to develop possible intelligence, as they are urged to fit in with those shallow patterns, often even thaught so by their parents ... (e.g. parents who also like R&B that teaches their daughter to be a whore, or their son to be a "gangsta" without any brains)!

That's oversimplifying things just a bit don't you think?
 
Black Session said:
the reason for people being so stupid nowadays according to me has much to do with television, popular music (wich portraits women as whores) and capitalism/commercialism/free trade .... all of wich promote shallowness and stupidity on a huge scale. lots of kids don't even get the chance to develop possible intelligence, as they are urged to fit in with those shallow patterns, often even thaught so by their parents ... (e.g. parents who also like R&B that teaches their daughter to be a whore, or their son to be a "gangsta" without any brains)!

Hmm....there MAY be more too it than your exquisite paragraph-long interpretation.
 
geez, this sucks...
i hope opeth remains untainted by rumors and speculation...
but it is a sad, fucked up world.
not sure why so many kids are so messed up, but i guess it's because adults are clearly not much better.
and i should know, since i am pretty messed up too.
but i am not planning on having kids.
(well, actually, i do want to keep goats, but not human kids, heh)
 
Black Session said:
the reason for people being so stupid nowadays according to me has much to do with television, popular music (wich portraits women as whores) and capitalism/commercialism/free trade .... all of wich promote shallowness and stupidity on a huge scale. lots of kids don't even get the chance to develop possible intelligence, as they are urged to fit in with those shallow patterns, often even thaught so by their parents ... (e.g. parents who also like R&B that teaches their daughter to be a whore, or their son to be a "gangsta" without any brains)!
:worship:
 
He just got hit with two more charges.

"After reviewing pictures and footage on Whitman's digital camera and camcorder, investigators charged him Tuesday with one felony count of using a child for a sexual performance. They also filed an additional count of computer pornography, jail records show."

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