Opeth in Israel: Show cancelled

[Benzine]

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Holy shit nadavnaz, fantastic defense.

Either you haven't read a single word he's said or you need to visit this link: click me

 

[Chunty]

Free Palestine IMHOTEPz0rz.

 

[Chunty]

FUCK U ALL

lol

 

[nadavnaz]

I heard the gig was cancelled due to fears of Isreali fans forcing non-israeli fans into a small corner of the gig venue and forcing them to watch the gig with a really bad view in cramped conditions and taking away their human rights and breaking internation law countless times


just what i heard anyway





You live in Haifa which is where my girfriend's father lived before he was forced out at gunpoint. Having left the country he was left with no homeland, friends and family killed, he could never return and for the rest of his life was in deep mourning for the loss of his country, friends, family etc. Why are you more justified to live there than he was? :/ You may now feel like you 'have a home' but in doing so there are a large number of people in the position where you were, with a feeling of homelessness.

HEY
I'm not justifying anything. It's ALL shit. okay? No one is fucking right, I know I don't feel that way, because I DO live here, but I know it is that way. No one's fucking right, and only in extreme cases one is righter than another without doubt.

all of it. a big pile of shit. It's all ugly. It's all death and conquer.

I'm sorry for your girlfriends father, and believe me that I (PERSONALLY) feel guilty for all the kinds of shit that some would actually say I shouldn't.

The thing you in New-England don't get is fear. I CAN understand how Israel is an immoral country in many ways, I CAN'T support giving it away because of FEAR OF EXISTENCE. K? Iran are setting up nice juicy bombs to take care of that as we speak.

If I lived in the states I could really embrace a more balanced view.But I can't, and I'm being honest: Because I don't have citizenship in other countries, and without this I'm a goner, just like the Arabs which were screwed over, just like people in darfur, just like anyone that got fucked in the history of fucking human beings.


You skipped the part when I said, IT'S HOW IT IS NOW, DEAL WITH IT OR FUCK WITH IT DON'T JUSTIFY ANYTHING, YOU CAN'T YOU'RE BIASED JUST LIKE ME AND EVERYONE IN THE WORLD EXCEPT GOD IF HE EXISTS AND I GUESS HE DOESN'T.
Shit changes, and it might change again and than the Jews once again will be the miserable fuckers without a home, not the other way around.

Thing is, it's reality and it's 7 mil people, so for grudge's sake you'd do the same that happened to your girlfriend's father to 7 mil people?

Come on, grow up.

 

[Benzine]

England as in UK. Not New England. I criticize my own country as much as others including Israel. England has a very bloody history and played it's part in the situation in Palestine today aswell as fecking up stuff all over the globe (india, australia, diego garcia, south africa + many more)

Don't really understand what you're trying to get at tbh. It's quite simple, Isreal has caused and is causing a hell of a lot of suffering and pain simply because their fairy story, to them, is better than the fairy story of another group of people.


Just saying "it's fucked" over and over isn't going to solve anything. "Nobody makes a greater mistake than he who does nothing because he could only do a little."


"Too often we honor swagger and bluster and the wielders of force; too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of others."

 

[ProgresiveLanD]

This is why i dont like religions religions was the worst human inventionuke:

 

[Perdido]

What band would get the hopes of thousands of their fans and then shatter it - just to make a political statement ???

Anyone with a shred of common sense and morality if they're actually serious about the issue.

 

[nadavnaz]

Anyone with a shred of common sense and morality if they're actually serious about the issue.

Oh give me a fucking break. Wanna do a body count in Iraq and than talk about Opeth not playing the US too?

fuck

 

[OpethOffer]

Hey guys! Sorry to hear about the show being cancelled in Israel! Due to this we've come up with an exlusive offer to a limited number of Israeli Opeth fans for a 4 disk box set with exclusive artwork and new material. The "sorry we couldn't make it" boxset is truely a one off and a must for any israeli Opeth fan.

 

[Prog_Please]

 

[Crackfare]

LMFAO at 5 minute funeral portrait

 

[opethpainter]

the more i look at it the more i laugh.

 

[opethpainter]

anyway... opeth usually don't cancel shows if there's no serious reason so... just stop mourning, this won't solve the problem.

 

[To rid you disease]

Hey guys! Sorry to hear about the show being cancelled in Israel! Due to this we've come up with an exlusive offer to a limited number of Israeli Opeth fans for a 4 disk box set with exclusive artwork and new material. The "sorry we couldn't make it" boxset is truely a one off and a must for any israeli Opeth fan.

 

[Benzine]

Actually, it was the surrounding Arab countries that attacked Israel first in 1948. So it wasn't Israel who started.

A section from Freedom Next time - by John Pilger. It's talking about his documentary 'Palestine is still the issue'. There was a big legal battle with Israeli parties saying it was innaccurate*

The objections concentrated on my commentary that, in the months and weeks before the establishment of Israel in May 1948, the Palestinians 'were expelled' from their homes or forced to flee in a blitz of fear and terror'. This directly contradicred the 'patriotic version', which denied there was a wholesale expulsion and maintained that Palestinians fled their homes at the urging of Arab leaders.

I have dealt with this in earlier pages, acknowledging the work of a group of 'new' Israeli historians who have opened previously inaccessible Hebrew archives and government files. These reveal that the flight of the Palestinians was the consequence of a tactic planned and executed by the Haganah (Jewish army) before the Arab states reacted to the declaration of the State of Israel - specifically 'Plan D', which aimed at gaining control of principle Palestinian towns. Avi Shlaim, professor of international relations at Oxford and author of The Iron Wall, wrote: 'Palestinian society disintergrated under the impact of the Jewish military offensive that got under way in April [1948]... by ordering the capture of Arab cities and the destruction of villages, [Plan D] both permitted and justified the forcible expulsion of Arab civilians'

We produced evidence that 369 Palestinian towns and villages were depopulated or destroyed prior to Israel's declaration of independance. Drawing on official records, the Isreali historian Benny Morris documented massacre after massacre of Palestinian civilians, in such places as Deir Yassin, al-Dawayima, Eilaboun, Jish, Sfasaf, Majd al-Kurum, Hule Sasa and Lydda. In Lydda and Ramle, the scene of total expulsions, the authorised accounts refer to 'ethnic cleansing'. A Jewish brigade was ordered: "Flight from the town of Ramle of women, the old and children is to be facilitated. The males are to be detained' Arriving at the scene, David Ben-Gurion, Israel's first Prime Minister, was asked by General Allon, 'What shall we do with the Arabs?' Ben-Gurion, wrote Morris, ' made a dismissive, energetic gesture with his hand and said "expel them."' The order to expel the entire population 'without attention to age' was signed by Yitzhak Rabin, a future Prime minister.

*but...

In January 2003, the Independant Television Commission announced that it rejected all compaints against 'Palestine is still the issue'. The commission praised the film's 'journalistic integrity', the 'care and thoroughness with which the film was researched' and the 'comprehensiveness and authority' of it's historical and other factual sources.

The claim that Arabs attacked first in 1967 is also debunked. Cba to type any more atm.

With regards to Hamas

Israel themselves had actually helped to set up and fund Hamas as part of 'a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative', in the words of a former Middle East CIA official. His and other evidence is in documents obtained from the Israel-based Institute for Counter Terrorism

 

[hexwind]

Now guys i know exactly ho you feel, this evening i was about to see Anathema gig, i went to the venue, and they told us it's gonna be next monday, delay it, and it's not for sure for UNKNOWN reasons !!! What a bad feeling

 

[-Davo]

So I heard you like mudkipz

 

[Nehebkau]

Hey guys! Sorry to hear about the show being cancelled in Israel! Due to this we've come up with an exlusive offer to a limited number of Israeli Opeth fans for a 4 disk box set with exclusive artwork and new material. The "sorry we couldn't make it" boxset is truely a one off and a must for any israeli Opeth fan.

I laughed... and it made me cry

 

[lammoth]

hope Mikael posts here to clarify why they cancelled it, so that people stop contemplating stuff they have no clue about.
anyway chill folks, every government has its pro an cons, just look at the cons an laugh at them

 

[Benzine]

every government has its pro an cons, just look at the cons an laugh at them

Yeah an MP in the UK recently claimed 2 pay per view porn films as expenses and they want to monitor all our rubbish with microchips in our bins so they'd get more money from fines and Barack Obama said he inhaled weed as "that was the point"

and in Israel they've violated countless internation laws and abuse human rights constantly, demolished thousands of homes for no reason, repeatedly destroyed basic infrastructure... wait a se...