OSX Lion

[Morgan C]

Just saw this, maybe I'm late to the party.

As a Windows user, it doesn't really concern me much, but "Resume" seems like such a basic thing that should have been in every operating system from the start. Gj Mac, I hope Windows copies that.

 

[LydonB]

We learn a lot more about Lion on Monday. Apparently the OS is going to be smaller than Snow Leopard, which is pretty crazy. They are taking a lot of cues from iOS (not sure how I feel about that). Looks like it will be a solid release. Anyone I know that has a developer copy seems to like it so far.

 

[G1]

Ive got a Dev version on my macbook atm and have done for the last few months. Full screen apps is win.. but only for multi tasking while working.. i dont htink it'll benefit any of us that mix tbh

 

[TheDriller]

Personally, i'll be waiting a good 6 months before even considering an upgrade from Snow Leopard.

As for the "Resume" feature, it's certainly cool but I wouldn't be so quick to say it should have been there all along,
freezing the state of a complex program while it's running is bound to be fairly tricky, and it would need pretty intensive writes to disk to get everything in there properly.

 

[JeffTD]

They are taking a lot of cues from iOS (not sure how I feel about that).

As far as I can tell, they're moving iOS and OS X closer and closer together, and I'm willing to bet that OS 11 will replace both and run on all systems, regardless of whether or not it's an iPad/Phone/Pod or a traditional Macintosh computer.

 

[jipchen]

As far as I can tell, they're moving iOS and OS X closer and closer together, and I'm willing to bet that OS 11 will replace both and run on all systems, regardless of whether or not it's an iPad/Phone/Pod or a traditional Macintosh computer.

I read that a lot and don't like the idea at all :/ I love my iPhone but it's a consumer product clearly, maybe even an expensive toy. OS X is becoming more and more of a consumer product too, with every student buying Macbooks because they look cool.. I just hope Apple realizes that there a lot of professional users on OS X and if they dumb down everything about OS X to iOS level those people will go away.
if they raise the iOS level to OS X that's cool with me but I don't think that will happen / be possible in the near feature.

 

[AdamG94]

if they raise the iOS level to OS X that's cool with me but I don't think that will happen / be possible in the near feature.

I really hope it's that way round, and when you think about the potential hardware that could be in a future iPad or iPhone in the next few years it probably is possible for it to be that way round. I mean, we already have dual core processor's in the iPad and set to have one in the new iPhone so what says that there won't be quad-core processor's, more ram and hard drive space in these devices in the next few years?

 

[jipchen]

Hmm, true. In fact I read a huge article some companies (Apple might even be one of them, I can't remember) testing the first quadcores in tablets / handheld devices a few days ago.
The bigger problem would probably be the data system (folders,partitions,etc), with iOS devices only allowing apps from the appstore. Perhaps I'm too pessimistic about this, it's not like OS X can't learn some things from iOS.. things like auto-save, "versions" (which is awesome) and the "resume" functions are great and very intuitive. If melting iOS and OS X means making it more comfortable to use without loosing the ability to use it on a professional level with a large number of applications from different developers that's great.
But news like their intention to use A5 / A6 CPUs instead of Intel processors make me shiver. Compatibility with Windows apps, Bootcamp etc goodbye

 

[TheDriller]

Lads, it's not like they're talking about rolling them into one OS by next Tuesday,
This is coming a long way down the line.

By the time OSX and iOS are fully merged, "computers" will be practically unrecognisable from what they are today,
And will call for a whole other kind of OS than what we're accustomed to.

The one thing you can bet on is the whole 'desktop' metaphor being ditched in favour of something much more intuitive.
As for the file system, the overwhelming majority of computer users either:
-don't understand the file/folder system
Or
-they don't really use it in any significant way.

As such, the whole 'office' based UI of a desktop and filing cabinet is on it's way out, as it is demonstrably a failure of human-computer interaction.

In short, I wouldn't worry about this having any real impact on what we do today, ad the people who eventually use iOS-X will consider our current operating systems as archaic as a PDP-10 timesharing mainframe seems to us today.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Personally, i'll be waiting a good 6 months before even considering an upgrade from Snow Leopard.

This was pretty much the story when I upgraded to snow leopard. I bought SL upgrade the month it came out and ended up not being able to use it for like 6-7 months after it came out due to drivers and other headaches fucking me over. But once I did dive in, I liked the difference from L to SL.