Overheads mics
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a few weeks ago i had the exact same problem!
i wanted some good overhead mics but then i reallized that i want a pair of mics for some other actions! - like gangvocals or as roommics!
so, i needed mics with different characteristics and because of using it as a vocal mic, as well it couldn't be a sdc.
i chose a pair of studio projects c3 with their preamp vtb 1 and although i haven't done a whole new recording project, i love what i heard from testing them.
my old setup was shure 16a into behringer mx 8000 preamps and i couldn't do close cymbals micing because of the distortion of the mics i got - so they were quite high above the kit and the stereo field wasn't that wide as i wanted it to be!
now with close micing and the c3's the seperation is much better - wider stereo field and the cymbals sound much better! what is really nice as a side effect is that the whole kit especially the snare sounds so much better with those mics!
so, what is your budget and what are your preamps like - just putting a better mic in front of it will not change that much!
the series of the akg's you mentioned is not prefered by any engineer i know - but that hasn't got to say a thing - i just know nobody who uses them!
cheers,
alex
i wanted some good overhead mics but then i reallized that i want a pair of mics for some other actions! - like gangvocals or as roommics!
so, i needed mics with different characteristics and because of using it as a vocal mic, as well it couldn't be a sdc.
i chose a pair of studio projects c3 with their preamp vtb 1 and although i haven't done a whole new recording project, i love what i heard from testing them.
my old setup was shure 16a into behringer mx 8000 preamps and i couldn't do close cymbals micing because of the distortion of the mics i got - so they were quite high above the kit and the stereo field wasn't that wide as i wanted it to be!
now with close micing and the c3's the seperation is much better - wider stereo field and the cymbals sound much better! what is really nice as a side effect is that the whole kit especially the snare sounds so much better with those mics!
so, what is your budget and what are your preamps like - just putting a better mic in front of it will not change that much!
the series of the akg's you mentioned is not prefered by any engineer i know - but that hasn't got to say a thing - i just know nobody who uses them!
cheers,
alex
unsilpauly
Member
the cymbals is what matters the most in the overhead equation. give a good drummer with good sounding cymbals, you can make almost any decent mic work. i would 2nd some studio projects here if you arent looking to spend alot. a pair of b1s will do the job imho.they will work both as overheads and vocal mics. ive really been pleased with this mic. for the price i dont think it can be beat. if you have cash to spend of course there are better options. but you can put the "best" mics on bad sounding cymbals and its worse than cheap mics
. in the end your gonna want a shit load of mics, so get some and work with them, then get more
. in the end your gonna want a shit load of mics, so get some and work with them, then get moreok,
first time using yousend it , so i hope it'll work!
two short clips with my old setup and the new one!
same kit, same day, same drummer, same broken 18" crash on the ride side - sorry for that!!
both tracks are normalized and not processed in any way!!
but i think the difference is very obvious and i'm glad running the new mics and preamps!
ok - the shure set up is a bit higher over the whole kit and the c3's are really close miced - but what i really wondered about is how different the whole kit sounds in a very, very positive way!!
i'm really happy about, spending a bit on this gear and although it is not the very expensive pro eqipment the result is amazing for me!!
old:
shure 16 a - behringer mx 8000:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=15508F5C6F7E2E39
new:
studio projects c3 - sp vtb 1:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=EC93C86C0B68F908
first time using yousend it , so i hope it'll work!
two short clips with my old setup and the new one!
same kit, same day, same drummer, same broken 18" crash on the ride side - sorry for that!!
both tracks are normalized and not processed in any way!!
but i think the difference is very obvious and i'm glad running the new mics and preamps!
ok - the shure set up is a bit higher over the whole kit and the c3's are really close miced - but what i really wondered about is how different the whole kit sounds in a very, very positive way!!
i'm really happy about, spending a bit on this gear and although it is not the very expensive pro eqipment the result is amazing for me!!
old:
shure 16 a - behringer mx 8000:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=15508F5C6F7E2E39
new:
studio projects c3 - sp vtb 1:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=EC93C86C0B68F908
JeffTD
Senhor Testiculo
Man, that difference is HUGE! Sounds awesome, but I'd like to hear the snare a bit more centered.
What does your spacing look like? I'd try something like Mr. Murphy used to use as an example...
What does your spacing look like? I'd try something like Mr. Murphy used to use as an example...
weird choice , but i've been using 2 Rode NT 1000s as my overheads recently and NT -5s on the hi hat and ride
and the detail that is coming out is great
and the detail that is coming out is great
Gnash
Lefty
Rode NT5s, the matched pair, sound real good for $400.
MXL matched pair for $200, work really well too, and they have a high pass switches on the mics. Both have worked great for me, and are pretty affordable.
MXL matched pair for $200, work really well too, and they have a high pass switches on the mics. Both have worked great for me, and are pretty affordable.
Gnash
Lefty
MXL 993, matched pair, $179, Musician's Friend.com.
They even come in a cool, metal case. You can leave 'em up, and use the case for a stash box!
They even come in a cool, metal case. You can leave 'em up, and use the case for a stash box!
Glenn Fricker
Very Metal &Very Bad News
Ok, I think that I'll buy the Rode Nt 5 matched pair, but I'm very courios about the m-audio pulsar mic becouse I can't find a review of this product in the net...if someone in this forum had an experience with this m-audio pulsar pleas tell me if is good for overheads.......
Yes, I would say Oktava MC012's. Cheap and great sounding. Avoid the black chinese models. Buy a Scott Dorsey modifying kit for them as well, and you have a great sounding pair of overhead mics - very good for all kinds of other things as well.
If you can afford it, go for a vintage Neumann KMi84. KM184 will sound fine, better than the Oktava's, but they're not built really great... unfortunately.
If you can afford it, go for a vintage Neumann KMi84. KM184 will sound fine, better than the Oktava's, but they're not built really great... unfortunately.
flhctroll
Member
samson c02. Come in matched pair. Did a price match at sam ash from an ad online for $100. great for the money.
