people in a position they shouldn't be in

drew, it's really not that hard to understand. Like Morgray said, you can't say they aren't well written and well arranged, because they just are, it's up to you to like it or not.

My position is not that hard to understand either, but you chaps aren't even trying to.

My position is this: 'well-written' and 'well arranged' are value judgements. There is NO universal concrete method to writing a pop song, or any kind of song; it is all subjective, with varying degree's of individuality involved. The evidence I provide to support this is the range of responses that everyone has had to the idea that they write good music - the body of varied responses is evidence that this is a subjective argument.

You cannot say that because I think they suck, that I'm ignoring that their stuff is "well written" - because me thinking they suck means inherently that I think their stuff is NOT well written. It's just not a valid response on your part; it really just smacks of fanboi-ism, or bending-over-backwards-liberalism.

How on earth you expect me to find the silver lining with a band like Nickelback, I'll never know. :lol:

/thread
 
The only one I could think of off the top of my head might be Greg Fidelman, but even he has some decent sounding records under his belt. He might be better at engineering than mixing though.

You could argue that his patriarch, Rubin, has no technical knowledge whatsoever, but you can't deny his eye and ear for picking artists and his ability to push bands to bring out quality songs.

Team up Rubin with a great mixer and you're in for a treat. His work with Andy Wallace or Brendan O'Brien was magnificent. Just imagine if it would have been Andy Wallace who mixed "Death Magnetic" and "World Painted Blood"...
 
http://wimp.com/ladygaga/

Maybe retract a couple statements in that department, at least. But back to the topic....

Obviously the guy in the original article/video has success. He's at least adequate at what he does and can support himself on his job as an engineer. Perhaps he's gotten to a point where all he has to do push a few buttons and slide a few faders and he's got a mix that becomes a top hit? Perhaps. I think it's also likely where he's at a point where can "afford" to be lazy and inarticulate and still make the big bucks.

I think if anything he's not a good steward of his success. I think it would be incredible if people like him could bring like Joey into his studio, purely for getting a name's sake the easy way and pumping out GOOD engineers in the market for the entire musical spectrum, and not just what is popular.

I also hate to be a forum nazi but could we keep NSFW material in a specifically NSFW thread?
 
I hereby decree this thread will now be about poasting your favorite Sloan quotes.

woah. fuck DO IT.

but you may not be friends ever again, so DO IT GOOD N HARD.

I like to take all the low E strings from 6 packs and put them on the guitar so they're all the same gauge, then i tune to open g. OBEY THY UNCLEANSED RIFF.

:worship:

fucking gig sucked shitballs. i did get a free sandwich though, so i guess that's cool.

I saw this new series a while back and think they look cool. They come with a cover to put over the knobs so when fat drunk bitches try to get on stage and sing lynyrd skynyrd songs, they don't fuck up your tonez.

Also, I was wondering if you can take all the shit front panel SHIT off the JSX.
I might keep the big chrome dangalangs because I just realized that they make an "S", and my name is Sloan, so that would be cool to make the ladies think that it's my own custom amp and i have enough money to ride in a fucking coke-filled limo and shit.

fuck. that place looks AWESOME.
nobody around to bother. i would just riffsturbate all day, every day.
 
AND MOAR!!!

If I ever stopped music all together, I would just trade my gear for a bigass gun so I could blow my fucking brains out into the atmosphere.

I was a complete asshole to one chick, just to try it out, and damn it really worked, she cooked me a fucking STEAK. I still feel bad about being suck a dick to someone though.

this is the kind of shit that really, really scares the shit out of me, because knowing how damn horny i get when intoxicated, i would probably do it, and then be like, damn, my nuts are hitting themselves awfully hard. then i would probably puke and kill myself.

THE WAIT IS OVER.




DEATH MAGNETIC
DELUXE EDITION


- COMPLETELY REMIXED AND REMASTERED ALBUM READY FOR 9.25 IMMERSIVE SOUND SYSTEMS
- EACH SONG ION-ETCHED ON SEPARATE HIGH QUALITY COMPUROM LAZERTECH DISCS FOR ULTIMATE CLARITY
- 8 VIDEO VECTRO-STACKS FEATURING 738 HOURS OF OF UNUSED SOLOS AND RIFFZ
- PASSCODE TO DOWNLOAD EXCLUSIVE N00DZ FROM MISSIONMETALLICA.COM
- 2 TEMPORARY TATTOO'S TO SHOW YOUR EXTREME TASTE IN RIFFAGE
- ULTRA-COMMENTARY GOES WHERE NO COMMENTARY HAS GONE BEFORE
- STICKERS
- DELUXE METAL CASE WITH CARRY HANDLE




SUMMER 2048
 
And finally, from a band names thread...

One of my favorites is SHITFEAST. I tried to get a friend to use that for his metal band, but he didn't do it.

Here's a list I made a while back. Lesbian Eyes has stuck around a bit.

LESBIAN EYES
UPPERS & DOWNERS
LICKFORCE 20K
TITTAT
WU TANG KLAN KLUX
NIPDRIP
JOIN CUMFILLEDBOYS.COM FOR ONLY $1
SHAT SHAT SHAT
ZOINKS: THE BAND
PASSION PARTY
I THINK WE'RE PREGNANT
SK8RAPE
D8-RAPE
APERAPE
KRANK SINATRO
AMY'S COOCH
BUCKET
SELLIN' WIGS MADE OF PUBES ON EBAY
TRIPPIN ON SOME GODDAMN GET HIGH
FEAST OF WHORES
SLUTNUGGET
MAJOR LEAGUE CHEW CREW
CROTCHMULLET
THE BEARDS OF GOD
YOUR SISTER LOVES MY DONG
SNAKES I HAET SNAKE
DESTINY'S CHILDREN
DUCK DUCK FUCK YOU GOOSE
AIN'T GIVE NO SHIT
STRAP ON
KILLDO
CHATTROCK IS DICKBUTS
NAZI PARTY
PIZZA X-TREME
RECTALCHEESE
CORAL REEF
 
Quite a shame that many of the new guys never had the chance to witness Sloan's greatness. At least it's archived here and Marcus you're doing a good job promoting his heritage. :D

I hope he didn't turn that "gun" quote into reality.