Periphery gets props from Guitar Edge magazine
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Lasse Lammert
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Ola Englund
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drew_drummer
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The idea is basically to make the dynamic range of the guitar signal smaller so the cutoff point of the noise gate can be set higher and faster without killing sustain, and it seems to work! However, they use the Axe-FX for recording, right? Am I the only one who thinks it's a little backwards to use a digital modeler for recording, and massive, complex, power-hungry, and probably less reliable tube/MIDI FX rigs for live playing?
I think it'd be more backwards the other way round
PhilTheBeard
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raybrochill
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man, FUCK this band... they make me feel bad about damn near everything I've ever done, ever!
...guess I'll go back to writing my in flames ripoffs.
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...guess I'll go back to writing my in flames ripoffs.
dun dun dent dun dent dun wedletdooo doo doo dah doo...
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Chryst Krispies
Vanilla Gorilla
Harry Hughes
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Yeah man, Bulb and co can fucking play their asses off. I remember Bulb saying in an interview he doesn't practice scales and that shit as such, but just always having to track guitars to a click made his playing so much more consistent.
However, they use the Axe-FX for recording, right? Am I the only one who thinks it's a little backwards to use a digital modeler for recording, and massive, complex, power-hungry, and probably less reliable tube/MIDI FX rigs for live playing?
Do a bit of research, Bulb has said he still prefers tube in a live environment.
There are heaps of guys that love the Axe FX for recording because obviously it's a great way to get great tones without pissing off the neighbors but feel it still doesn't stack up to a real amp when playing live.
So no, I don't think it's backward
Ermz
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Yeah but in this day and age they could easily track DIs and have them reamped (even via their own rigs). All they have to do is pay for like half a day in a semi-decent studio.
egan.
daylightdies.com
Nice one Marcus. It's hard to imagine they couldn't come up with a few hundred dollars to capture the sound of their $10k guitar rigs (particularly with label support). For that matter, I'll go on the record as saying that it isn't that difficult to find a place to DIY amp recording anyway. After all, most bands rehearse somewhere right?
Anyway, it doesn't matter. They sound great both ways, but there is an inherent contradiction.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. They sound great both ways, but there is an inherent contradiction.
Word, obviously whatever works for them is cool, but if their only reason for using the Axe-FX was recording the album in an apartment, that just seemed a bit thin to me
Josh Burgess
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Yeah man, Bulb and co can fucking play their asses off. I remember Bulb saying in an interview he doesn't practice scales and that shit as such, but just always having to track guitars to a click made his playing so much more consistent.
Do a bit of research, Bulb has said he still prefers tube in a live environment.
There are heaps of guys that love the Axe FX for recording because obviously it's a great way to get great tones without pissing off the neighbors but feel it still doesn't stack up to a real amp when playing live.
So no, I don't think it's backward
The reason people think it's backwards is because a mic'd up cab would give a better guitar tone for the recording. Many people would prefer to get the best guitar tone possible for their album, but willing to compromise a little for live playing (because shit happens when playing live... might be hard to hear yourself on some nights, noisey loud environment, bad sound guys, etc.)
I have an Axe-FX, and I think it's awesome through a poweramp and cab... but it doesn't beat or even match (IMO) a mic'd up cab when playing direct through impulses. Impulses are close, but just not 100% as good as mic'd up cab. I'm talking about for high gain sounds here... I think it's not that hard to get great clean tones out of it recording direct.
BTW, at one point Bulb was saying the Axe-FX through his friend's VHT 2/50/2 poweramp sounded just as good or better to him than his Engl Invader 100 and he was considering selling the Invader and using that setup live. I never heard any more about that though... maybe his connection for the VHT was Tosin Abasi, and Tosin decided to keep the VHT? ...because Tosin now uses an Axe-FX through VHT 2/50/2 through an Orange cab live.
The Axe-FX is GREAT as a preamp though. I think most of what people are missing with the direct IR sounds is the interaction between poweramp, cab, mic, and mic pre. So, the fault is with IRs in general... not the Axe-FX's modeling. So, more people need to try running it through an amp and cab and micing up!
I think someone needs to do a shoot out with the Axe and good poweramp going into a Mesa oversized/recto cab versus a 5150 or recto through the same cab. It'd be cool to see just how close it could cop that modern metal recto cab sound most of us on this forum love so much. That'd really show what the Axe-FX is capable of.
Djabthrash
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How about pairing the Axe Fx as a preamp with a killer PowerAmp/Cab/Mic/Miking device ?
http://www.two-notes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=149
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