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Actually, in every picture from Andy, Brett, and James, where a cabinet has been mic'd up... none of them have been against a wall.
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Actually, in every picture from Andy, Brett, and James, where a cabinet has been mic'd up... none of them have been against a wall.
metalkingdom
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Looks killer, can't wait to hear that mic combo. Which pre's are you using for guitars? The API's?
LSD-Studio
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i don't even rehearse with the band with the cab's back too near to a wall.
even worse would be a corner.
the closer you are to a walll or even corner (worst thing tri-corner) the more problems you've got with standing waves 'cause all standing waves have their maximum amplitude there!
the sm57+421+royer121 is a classic combination, it's definitely gonna slay.
only reason why i prefer recording with 1 mic is the amount of tracks.
I'm always recording the DI nsignal, too, so recording with 3 mics (4 guitar tracks) would mean 16 tracks in total, I just can't handle those
you've got some really nice stuff there Matt!
even worse would be a corner.
the closer you are to a walll or even corner (worst thing tri-corner) the more problems you've got with standing waves 'cause all standing waves have their maximum amplitude there!
the sm57+421+royer121 is a classic combination, it's definitely gonna slay.
only reason why i prefer recording with 1 mic is the amount of tracks.
I'm always recording the DI nsignal, too, so recording with 3 mics (4 guitar tracks) would mean 16 tracks in total, I just can't handle those
you've got some really nice stuff there Matt!
elmuchoescadawg
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Same reason you wouldnt put your monitors flat against the wall. If you have the speaker against a surface you will get a bass boost of around 3db. I cant for the life of me remember the name of this effect.
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elmuchoescadawg
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For every extra surface a speaker is against you add 3bd to the bass. If its in the corner of a room with 3 surfaces against the cab thats a 9Db bass boost. Bearing in mind the floor is already the first surface if the cab has no wheels
LSD-Studio
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yep, you're right there.
interesting topic by the way.....(i used to teach acoustic classes at McNallySmith College of Music...so I'm a little biased here
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elmuchoescadawg
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yep, you're right there.
interesting topic by the way.....(i used to teach acoustic classes at McNallySmith College of Music...so I'm a little biased here
Im Im trying to remember all the principles I learnt at a similar college (SAE) before I became a professional loudificator
LSD-Studio
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To answer a few questions -
Yes I built the gobos myself. They are 4' x 6' and have 6" of foam in them. They help deaden the room without killing everything, plus I can move them in tighter if I need to.
The preamps I am using are an API for the Royer and Neve 1272 for the 57 and 421.
For the guitar cab: I've always gotten much better results in free space rather than coupling it to a wall. I also always leave the wheels on the cabs. I've done it this way for ever, but it's not been until the last couple of years that I understood the science behind why it sounds better.
Burny - I recorded one album with the guitar cab on its side on top of a coffee table, it was the only way that the cab sounded good in the room!
As to the sound: I'm really happy with the sound I'm getting. It's really raw, and not too-gainy. I'll post samples once I get takes I'm happy with. I've never done much quad tracking, and I'm going to give it a shot for this project (woot! 16 tracks of rhythm guitars!)
Yes I built the gobos myself. They are 4' x 6' and have 6" of foam in them. They help deaden the room without killing everything, plus I can move them in tighter if I need to.
The preamps I am using are an API for the Royer and Neve 1272 for the 57 and 421.
For the guitar cab: I've always gotten much better results in free space rather than coupling it to a wall. I also always leave the wheels on the cabs. I've done it this way for ever, but it's not been until the last couple of years that I understood the science behind why it sounds better.
Burny - I recorded one album with the guitar cab on its side on top of a coffee table, it was the only way that the cab sounded good in the room!
As to the sound: I'm really happy with the sound I'm getting. It's really raw, and not too-gainy. I'll post samples once I get takes I'm happy with. I've never done much quad tracking, and I'm going to give it a shot for this project (woot! 16 tracks of rhythm guitars!)
metalkingdom
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C_F_H_13
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It's easier to think of it as the "Devil Driver technique": http://www.royerlabs.com/session_photos/RH_devildriver.html
...or the "Meat Loaf technique":
http://www.royerlabs.com/session_photos/meatloaf.html
...or the "Meat Loaf technique":
http://www.royerlabs.com/session_photos/meatloaf.html
C_F_H_13
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