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Either just make an AUX with the same input and monitor through that, or put a TDM plug after.
or maybe you could just set up a stereo aux with a multi-mono instance of PodFarm, and bus your two L-R D.I. tracks to that (output, not send). You'll have to see which option gives you the least latency.
or maybe you could just set up a stereo aux with a multi-mono instance of PodFarm, and bus your two L-R D.I. tracks to that (output, not send). You'll have to see which option gives you the least latency.
Eduardo Apolonia
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Egan is right.
Sorry about the confusion I made.
I read it too fast and skipped the part of you wanted to record on that track.
I use a TDM plugin after RTAS when I have a Aux plugin that doesn't have a TDM version and don't want any perceivable latency
If you want to record, you can use Podfarm as RTAS and use the lowest latency setting in the HW Buffer size (64 samples if I'm not mistaken). This will be fast enough.
AStudio
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To clear up the delay compensation thing, you can record with delay compensation on as long as you dont have any plugins on your master fader (master faders are not compensated for with delay comp, hence you will still feel the delay even with DC on).
Set your buffer size to 512 or lower and you will be fine. The common work around you discuss is to have TDM TRIM plug before the RTAS.
Hope this helps
Set your buffer size to 512 or lower and you will be fine. The common work around you discuss is to have TDM TRIM plug before the RTAS.
Hope this helps
MetalJonesy
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thats weird in PT HD as in LE ive always got my buffer size set to 256, and with record enable on with auto inut monitoring, it wrks fine, ive never had such an issue like what you're having! :s
i'm gonna be that goon who's like "told you so!"
told you so!
cubendo is so much better! you get your reverb plugins, high rate of work flow back, unconfusing track routing and monitoring, and vst!
aha.
on a side note, i don't think there is a TDM version of pod farm, because i don't think it's that easy to make tdm plugins (read: it costs a lot of money). tdm plugins run on that bizarre HD card, so developing for that will cost a metric fuckload. combine this, with not a huge demand (i think you're probably the only AE that uses pf primarily and pthd..), i don't think we'll see one soon..!
i hope your pro-tools woes sort themselves out.
thanks,
told you so!
cubendo is so much better! you get your reverb plugins, high rate of work flow back, unconfusing track routing and monitoring, and vst!
aha.
on a side note, i don't think there is a TDM version of pod farm, because i don't think it's that easy to make tdm plugins (read: it costs a lot of money). tdm plugins run on that bizarre HD card, so developing for that will cost a metric fuckload. combine this, with not a huge demand (i think you're probably the only AE that uses pf primarily and pthd..), i don't think we'll see one soon..!
i hope your pro-tools woes sort themselves out.
thanks,
egan.
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TheDriller
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Yep,
if i remember correctly, VST, RTAS and AU are written in Object-Oriented language, whereas TDM plugins are written in Assembly language.
taking far more work to actually write.
drew_drummer
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TheDriller
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you gotta remember it's about 15 years old at this stage, and its position in the industry means digidesign/avid cannot just change these things in an update and expect everything to run smoothly.
every DAW has its weird quirks, Logic has plenty of them, and Reaper seems to be made entirely from quirks,
Doesn't stop anyone from making records though, regardless of their DAW of choice.
Eduardo Apolonia
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I just stated 64 samples because it's the fastest setting, it's not the only setting that works, you can use whatever you feel good to you even, if that's 1024 or 2048.
Using delay compensation will automatically delay by 1024 or 4096 samples (you can select)
I don't think that using it as RTAS with a small buffer is a stupid or archaic thing.
If I'm not mistaken this is the way almost all DAWs work.
Very few DAWs work with so low latency as Digidesign TDM architecture.
I'm almost sure that when you turn delay compensation on it will add a delay to each track to reach the selected compensation amount (1023 or 4095) independently if you have any processing on the master bus.
Using delay compensation will automatically delay by 1024 or 4096 samples (you can select)
I don't think that using it as RTAS with a small buffer is a stupid or archaic thing.
If I'm not mistaken this is the way almost all DAWs work.
Very few DAWs work with so low latency as Digidesign TDM architecture.
I'm almost sure that when you turn delay compensation on it will add a delay to each track to reach the selected compensation amount (1023 or 4095) independently if you have any processing on the master bus.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
I agree in a sense; but it's not like they've NOT had time to be developing new shit in the background. Maybe if they'd not been so preoccupied with releasing shitty products like the Mbox and the micro's... I dunno. I don't get their battleplan.
If PT were as stable and friendly to virtual instruments as Ableton Live; I'd just use PT. But as it stands... I'm on a combination; PT, Live, and Logic.
i will say that by first hand owning cubase 5 / nuendo 3 / and pro tools hd 8.... i'll recommend cubase or nuendo to anyone before i recommend pro tools
i still have not used my pro tools rig to do anything yet.
when it comes to in the box, there's no fuss about it. i can crank my RME all the way down to 64 samples, and run just about all of my plugins at zero latency.
all the way up to mix, i have ZERO latency on all plugins combined.
the only thing you can't get around is the AISO latency which is about 2 MS
other than that, steinberg's got something right here. honestly.
including the ability to split, and see audio as you drag it.
i still have not used my pro tools rig to do anything yet.
when it comes to in the box, there's no fuss about it. i can crank my RME all the way down to 64 samples, and run just about all of my plugins at zero latency.
all the way up to mix, i have ZERO latency on all plugins combined.
the only thing you can't get around is the AISO latency which is about 2 MS
other than that, steinberg's got something right here. honestly.
including the ability to split, and see audio as you drag it.
TheDriller
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drew_drummer
Dancefap
There will be monitoring latency, because it has to travel through the AD/DA section of the card, as well as the buffers.
Joey... I'll buy your Cubase off you
there is no buffering though, the audio engine is totally independent. that's just for the rtas section. that's what sets it apart from LE or other native daws.
i could be wrong, I'm no tech expert.
i could be wrong, I'm no tech expert.
AdamWathan
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Yeah he's talking about PodFarm though which is apparently only RTAS so there will be latency. There's no way it'll be any more than what you got with Cubase though Joey, there is definitely latency in Cubase, just like any other DAW. Your buffer determines your latency, so even at 32 buffer, you are going to have a delay between when you hit the strings and when the sound comes through the speakers, it's just really really really small and you can't hear it. I'm not sure how low the buffer goes on your HD system but you should be able to get it just as low as Cubase.
