Problem with sample in Drumagog

[A.D.I.]

Hello,

I'm working with drumagog for a band, and I have a problem with the samples sound.
It seems that I lost low end on all samples when I replace hits.

In fact, when I push audition button, I have the real part which have low end, and when I apply the replacement, there is non more low end.

The samples are all taken from the original track, so I don't understand...

I use drumagog in this case to write the track in midi, align it to grid, and then re-record the tracks with the samples.

I've frequently used drumagog, and never notice this problem...

If someone could help me, it could be awesome...

Thanks

 

[AHChris]

Try inverting the Phase...

 

[Mikaël-ange]

-You need to phase align all your sample before make a gog
-replace
-check all printed track sample and re align phase for out of phase element

Editing is the key (for get a great base for a mix and of course for brain failure)

 

[plague_rider]

These guys summed it up... phase is the issue...

 

[cloy26]

what does it mean to phase align in?? I mean I understand being in/out of phase, but how would you go about making sure it doesn't happen?

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Each kick sample for exemple need to be in phase with itself and other... Sample need to start at same time with other... I try to post a screan shot tomorow

 

[Mikaël-ange]

1:

As you can see we have two snares samples. Look in phase like any others samples you choose for made a gog no?

2:

Zoom in

3:

As you can see, locator is put on first sample wave begin (you can put locator where you want, I use waveform begin by personal preference btw). But second sample wave begin isn't at same place. Out of phase...

4:

Drag second sample for get phase alignement.

5:

Cut second sample

6:

Now both sample are in phase with other and you can feel happy (for moment).

 

[TonyS.]

Do you do this for each snare/sample hit in the whole song?
...a lot of work... I would replace all the hits and use just the samples...but extant the dynamic.

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Do you do this for each snare/sample hit in the whole song?
...a lot of work... I would replace all the hits and use just the samples...but extant the dynamic.

How my god, no

I start by choose all my sample for each elements (kick, snare...etc). I do what I describe and I create my gog.

I replace with drumagog (with Joey technique for less error)>bounce all my track

After bouncing I check all my track and correct small % of out of phase alignement (cause drumagog still miss some alignementuke.

But I heard that Collin replace every single hit manually (probably false but nobody can't comfirm this for moment, Colin if you are still around)...

And for add a little bit, here a Joey quote about how get less error with drumagog:

YOU MUST SET THESE SETTINGS IN THIS ORDER
(drumagog will turn auto align ON when you switch certain settings)

advanced tab, triggering engine: advanced, latency slider all the way to the right

auto-align: actual peak
optimize for: "bass drum / general use", switch this to snare on snare tracks duh

auto sample rate conversion: on

main tab, bottom right hand corner section:

dynamic multi samples: on
random multi samples: on

everything else OFF, INCLUDING AUTO-ALIGN -> OFF

now when your wave form peaks, drumagog plays a sample

Sorry for my frenchy english btw

 

[[UEAK]Clowd]

How my god, no

I start by choose all my sample for each elements (kick, snare...etc). I do what I describe and I create my gog.

I replace with drumagog (with Joey technique for less error)>bounce all my track

After bouncing I check all my track and correct small % of out of phase alignement (cause drumagog still miss some alignementuke.

But I heard that Collin replace every single hit manually (probably false but nobody can't comfirm this for moment, Colin if you are still around)...

And for add a little bit, here a Joey quote about how get less error with drumagog:


Sorry for my frenchy english btw

I do something similar when bouncing - I assume you guys are TRACKING with live mode though?

 

[Mikaël-ange]

I do something similar when bouncing - I assume you guys are TRACKING with live mode though?

Yes

 

[A.D.I.]

Thanks for your answers...

So you're talking about aligning the phase between the real track and the new track with replacement,isn't it ? But it's in the case you blend 2 tracks with different samples ? If I delete the real track and use only the one with replacement, there is no more problem ?

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Thanks for your answers...

So you're talking about aligning the phase between the real track and the new track with replacement,isn't it ? But it's in the case you blend 2 tracks with different samples ? If I delete the real track and use only the one with replacement, there is no more problem ?

Je parle bien d'aligner les phases entre chaque samples avant la creation des gogs, puis apres le remplacement. Peu importe que tu gardes ta piste de base ou non