pt vs cubase

[Sharptooth]

Couldnt agree more!

Hey joey if you hate mixing with pro tools so much (which i do too coming from years on cubase to weeks on pro tools) I find my self doing all the recording and editing in pro tools, bouncin down to mono wavs or what have you then importing to cubase for mixing/mastering.

Only down side is the ridiculous time consuming real time rendering for all your pissin individual tracks in PT.

Although this would kinda renders forkin out thousads for that hd rig pretty pointless.

Just some thoughts for you though.

 

[vespiz]

Couldnt agree more!

Hey joey if you hate mixing with pro tools so much (which i do too coming from years on cubase to weeks on pro tools) I find my self doing all the recording and editing in pro tools, bouncin down to mono wavs or what have you then importing to cubase for mixing/mastering.

Only down side is the ridiculous time consuming real time rendering for all your pissin individual tracks in PT.

Although this would kinda renders forkin out thousads for that hd rig pretty pointless.

Just some thoughts for you though.

Tried Consolidate regions -> Export regions as files?

 

[Everybody]

maybe cubase is like glasses and pro tools is like contacts.

glasses, you just throw them on, and adjust to them pretty quickly.

contacts, you have to fuck around with getting them in your eye, and dealing with irritation, but then after about a week no more irritation and your vision is better than glasses. and you dont have to wear glasses ever again. until your contacts fuck up.

idk, i just choose neither and use reaper cause i cant afford contacts or glasses..

did i make any sense?

 

[Ermz]

I've never really tried mixing in PT, so I guess I wouldn't have the insight to compare mix engines here. All I know is that Cubase crashes... constantly, and its automation engine is a PITA.

You have to think in terms of analogue workflow if you're using PT. If you're going to use a stereo chorus with a mono source you have to ultimately run it off an aux and then back onto the desk on two spare FX return channels. If you're running it as an insert on that mono channel, it's only ever going to come back in mono unless you print the chorus on a stereo channel, or two monos.

It's just a different workflow that you're used to, which actually made me question way back why you actually moved to PTHD at all. So much of your non-standard approach is rooted in doing things in a way that bears no relevance to analog methodologies, so I'm not sure why you'd go for the most analog-esque DAW.

 

[joeymusicguy]

I've never really tried mixing in PT, so I guess I wouldn't have the insight to compare mix engines here. All I know is that Cubase crashes... constantly, and its automation engine is a PITA.

You have to think in terms of analogue workflow if you're using PT. If you're going to use a stereo chorus with a mono source you have to ultimately run it off an aux and then back onto the desk on two spare FX return channels. If you're running it as an insert on that mono channel, it's only ever going to come back in mono unless you print the chorus on a stereo channel, or two monos.

It's just a different workflow that you're used to, which actually made me question way back why you actually moved to PTHD at all. So much of your non-standard approach is rooted in doing things in a way that bears no relevance to analog methodologies, so I'm not sure why you'd go for the most analog-esque DAW.

good point

i guess the power was attractive

i havent tried everything yet but im pretty sure i'll be able to have a very large session with no problem

even with my best cubase days i can't accomplish that without having to bounce 4 - 8 tracks into a single stereo stem so i can move on to the next thing

automation is buggy as fuck, and that's also a pita
nothing like bouncing your hard work and playing it back to find that the delay didnt trigger right

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Also, why are they being such nazis about everything? They need a whole type of plugins of their own, and Digidesign's own hardware (usually pretty shitty or requires a lot of other pieces of hardware to compensate)

STABILITY. That's actually the one REALLY good thing I like about pro tools.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

I use both cubase and pro tools.

Things I wish were in pro tools that cubase has:

1: Folder tracks.
2: Drum editor (midi)
3: Tempo editor (er whatever it's called time warp or something like that)
4: Presets for certain thing (like being able to call up a set of insert plugins)
5: Drum maps (and yes I saw the work around for this, so I guess you could setup something but that's a work around).

Things I wish were in cubase that pro tools has (noteing that I only have studio):

1: Smart tool
2: Better color scheme
3: Better (IMO) busing scheme
4: Multiple group for tracks (I know you can link channels, it would be nice to be able to have multiple groups like pro tools).
5: Automation in the same fashion as pro tools.

 

[poidaobi]

I must say the Cubase Interface is really starting to fucking piss me off. Especially when you add the mixer. Then the tracks minimise, then the mixer minimises. Then I restore one and the other dissapears then I have to enable it again. Then windows go dissapearing.

It's probably because I have no idea how to set it up.

 

[006]

I must say the Cubase Interface is really starting to fucking piss me off. Especially when you add the mixer. Then the tracks minimise, then the mixer minimises. Then I restore one and the other dissapears then I have to enable it again. Then windows go dissapearing.

It's probably because I have no idea how to set it up.

Are you using on Win? I have NEVER had this issue with any version of Cubase I have owned, but I have used it on Mac mostly.

 

[updog]

STABILITY. That's actually the one REALLY good thing I like about pro tools.

The amount of crashing I get on Logic, I'd never trade off the functionality to fix that. After all, whenever Logic crashes it automatically saves whatever you were doing at the time, and usually it blames the PLAY plugin (EWQLSO)

I think I like doing fades in PT more than in Logic, but that's about it. But to each his own

 

[ahjteam]

I use both cubase and pro tools.

Things I wish were in pro tools that cubase has:

1: Folder tracks.
2: Drum editor (midi)
3: Tempo editor (er whatever it's called time warp or something like that)
4: Presets for certain thing (like being able to call up a set of insert plugins)
5: Drum maps (and yes I saw the work around for this, so I guess you could setup something but that's a work around).

1: doesn't version 8 has them?
2: ditto, and to be actually able to move the notes with keyboard would be nice
3: elastic time
4: file > import > session data
5: you answered this one yourself


and custom keyboard commands would be nice... and the scissor tool

Things I wish were in cubase that pro tools has (noteing that I only have studio):

1: Smart tool
2: Better color scheme
3: Better (IMO) busing scheme
4: Multiple group for tracks (I know you can link channels, it would be nice to be able to have multiple groups like pro tools).
5: Automation in the same fashion as pro tools.

1: umm... the default pointer tool? only thing it doesn't do is crossfades, but otherwise same functionality applies
2: irrelevant/personal taste and the difference between cubase and protools colour scheme is that cubase is blue and protools is gray... and you can customize cubase to be grayscale in colour if it really bothers you that it's blue.
3: ditto
4: this is basically same as 3
5: umm... whats wrong with it? just push the big red R to write and the big green W to turn the automation on.

 

[Jevil]

PRO TOOLS

CUBASE

 

[updog]

LOGIC

 

[slashvanyoung]

It's the reason why I bought Studio One and started to use it more and more. It merges a lot of what I like about PT, Cubase and Reaper in one DAW.

 

[joeymusicguy]

pro tools

cubase

just kidding =P

 

[TheDriller]

ProTools:

Reaper:

Logic:

 

[updog]

@ reaper



Why does Logic need to be the Tau? Why can't it be the Space Marines or Eldar or something cool??

(Yes, I used to be a Warhammer 40,000 geek)

 

[TheDriller]

@ reaper



Why does Logic need to be the Tau? Why can't it be the Space Marines or Eldar or something cool??

(Yes, I used to be a Warhammer 40,000 geek)

Cos Tau got firepower and they look awesome

Space Marines are kinda boring, the only time they are interesting is when being killed by legions of Necron warriors

 

[updog]

Cos Tau got firepower and they look awesome

Space Marines are kinda boring, the only time they are interesting is when being killed by legions of Necron warriors

dunno, maybe I'm on their side because I used to collect them and Tau and Necron, pfffft, I always thought the original races were enough

 

[poidaobi]

Are you using on Win? I have NEVER had this issue with any version of Cubase I have owned, but I have used it on Mac mostly.

Happens on XP, Vista and Win7.

Its the Windows within Cubase. I hope you don't think it's the whole program minimising and maximising.