pt vs cubase

and custom keyboard commands would be nice... and the scissor tool

Just curious why you think you would need a scissor tool in pt?

I feel your pain a bit joey. I spend at least 30-60 minutes a day on the phone helping friends/clients understand the way the playback engine works in pt.

I don't quite understand your mono/stereo problem, but one thing that does drive me nuts in pt is if you try and drag a plugin from a stereo track to a mono track it won't let you. However if you put the plugin on the track without draggin and then copy the settings it works fine hahaha.

I've been working in Logic for a while now, and I find it an absolute hassle compared to PT. I only use it because of all the extra plugins and the ADC functions.

#1 thing PT doesn't have is ADC (HD does, but it's a little tricky too hahaha). The other thing I want is the custom key commands....although that'd make my quickeys tutorials pointless.
 
dunno, maybe I'm on their side because I used to collect them :lol: and Tau and Necron, pfffft, I always thought the original races were enough :rock:

Yeah, i used to have pretty big collections of Space Marines, Dark Eldar and Chaos when i was young.

got back into it about a year ago with a Necron army.
they're pretty cool, but i know what you mean, they feel a bit "young" :)
 
I actually fully agreed on the pic/comparison, but interpreted it quite differently I think.

Pro Toools HD: you've got all the space and air to go where you want, resources on mass amd it's your job to use this whole big world...
cubase...single button...that's where your mix can go...
 
Joey your pictures are absoluty right for AVID and FINAL CUT!!!!

Avid is oldschool

Final cut is newschool....

Dont know how it is with PT and Logic/Cubase

@C_F_H_13

Drag an drop plugins from mono source-> stereo source is a no-brainer in Logic, so dont talk shit about my favorite DAW :)
 
PRO TOOLS

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CUBASE

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Joey your pictures are absoluty right for AVID and FINAL CUT!!!!

Avid is oldschool

Final cut is newschool....

Dont know how it is with PT and Logic/Cubase

@C_F_H_13

Drag an drop plugins from mono source-> stereo source is a no-brainer in Logic, so dont talk shit about my favorite DAW :)

HAHAHA, I'll agree with you that we shouldn't turn this into a PT vs. Logic thread lol.
 
Reaper ftw in terms of being intuitive. I find the routing and bussing makes so much more sense and way easier to use. I find editing to be the greatest asset protools has ESP now with elastic audio. Hate mixing in it. You can't type fader values in, the way the plugins insert is annoying. I probably haven't looked into this enough but often times when you open a second plugin window it closes the first.

Plus with reaper I can browse my plugs alphabetically, it has a search filter. I can load up common chains I use with presets already up for tweaking. Plus I just hate the whole you 'have to use tools' thing that everybody lives by. I'd rather fuck around for 15 mins importing consolidated wave files after editing in tools then use it for everything else.
 
I must say the Cubase Interface is really starting to fucking piss me off. Especially when you add the mixer. Then the tracks minimise, then the mixer minimises. Then I restore one and the other dissapears then I have to enable it again. Then windows go dissapearing.

It's probably because I have no idea how to set it up. :)

Huh? I've never seen this before in all the years I've used Cubase. Could you elaborate?
 
1: doesn't version 8 has them?
2: ditto, and to be actually able to move the notes with keyboard would be nice
3: elastic time
4: file > import > session data
5: you answered this one yourself
6.and custom keyboard commands would be nice... and the scissor tool

1. Not to my knowledge. That would have been an amazing new feature though.
2. yep
3. No that's not what I was talking about. I'm taking about the tool that makes it so you can drag the timeline to make tempo changes compared to the music without stretching any audio. I would want the time warp tool. Here is a link to what I'm talking about: Watch the timewarp video
4. Yeah, sort of but not really the same thing. It would be a lot nicer if it was just an option at the top of the insert list on pro tools. In other words a pulldown that you could save your own insert preset and say you wanted for vocals, it would automatically pull up an eq then compressor then de esser or the like in it's default mode.
5. Yeah like I said, it's a workaround though.
6. Yeah I actually like the scissor tool a little bit better myself.





1: umm... the default pointer tool? only thing it doesn't do is crossfades, but otherwise same functionality applies
2: irrelevant/personal taste and the difference between cubase and protools colour scheme is that cubase is blue and protools is gray... and you can customize cubase to be grayscale in colour if it really bothers you that it's blue.
3: ditto
4: this is basically same as 3
5: umm... whats wrong with it? just push the big red R to write and the big green W to turn the automation on.

1. Yeah I guess your right, but the smart tools functions without the need of keyboard shortcuts in conjunction correct? Just depends on where you position it as to what it does. I feel that's a much nicer way to work.
2. I know you can tweak the color scheme, but I like how much darker pro tools looks overall. It just seems easier on the eyes. I have messed with a bunch of the color scheme stuff on cubase and didn't like a lot of it.
3. Yep
4. No I meant groups in reguards to track grouping. For example: If I want to make fader changes for a group of faders in the mix window in cubase, I have to select them and link them then move them how I would like. In pro tools if I only want to move the drum faders I just have to turn that group on and have at it. Seems a much quicker way. Unless you have a better way to do that in cubase? Group tracks together so that volume and automation is linked?
5. No, I'm talking where you can select and area and use the smart tool to lower or raise that entire area. Regular read/write automation is fine (latch, x-over, touch and the like). I was referring to how it can be drawn in.
 
poidaobi-

right click the mixer, or a plugin, or anything that makes that happen that you dont want it to.

"always on top"

fixed.
 
Things I wish were in pro tools that cubase has:

1: Folder tracks.

I missed that first, too....but edit groups in PT do exactly the same.


Things I wish were in pro tools that cubase has:


3: Tempo editor (er whatever it's called time warp or something like that)

PT has it...it's called elastic audio and works better than time warp in cubase :)


Things I wish were in pro tools that cubase has:


4: Presets for certain thing (like being able to call up a set of insert plugins)

shift+alt+i


EDIT: ahjteam said it already
 
I think from all DAWs I've tried, Pro Tools is the most unintuitive. Editing is such a pain in the ass. Also, why are they being such nazis about everything? They need a whole type of plugins of their own, and Digidesign's own hardware (usually pretty shitty or requires a lot of other pieces of hardware to compensate)

DAWs are different, but I feel that PT is just plain anti-workflow to use.



using pt:

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the only reply i need to make to you is easy... you just quite simply don't know what the hell you're talking about.
 
I use both cubase and pro tools.

Things I wish were in pro tools that cubase has:

1: Folder tracks. WRONG
2: Drum editor (midi)
3: Tempo editor (er whatever it's called time warp or something like that)WRONG
4: Presets for certain thing (like being able to call up a set of insert plugins)WRONG
5: Drum maps (and yes I saw the work around for this, so I guess you could setup something but that's a work around).

1, 3, and 4 are all available in Pro Tools.
 
tthe only reply i need to make to you is easy... you just quite simply don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Weren't all of my points about Digidesign true? And the rest of my message were just opinions...

I admit that my message was rather pointless... I just don't prefer using PT.
 
Weren't all of my points about Digidesign true? And the rest of my message were just opinions...

I admit that my message was rather pointless... I just don't prefer using PT.

no.
SInce when was editing audio in PT hard/difficult/shit?? its THE BEST audio editing platform bar none. I can't stand the way any other Daw handles Editing audio.... Especially logic.