queensryche-american soldier

The Warning, OMC and Empire are what Queensryche is to me. Rage is OK with a few great tracks, I enjoy Q2K but still not the Queensryche I came to love. I dont think they had true staying power but were so big they had to keep going. I saw some vid on youtube of them sometime around the Empire tour with an interview. The guy asked them if they had been writing or coming up with new stuff or even ideas for "the next recording". Their answer was rather odd, something like "nothing" and to me in a sense that was a forecast of the future because they have never gotten back to anything remotely as awesome as MC and Empire.
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Was surprised to hear someone say something about Tate and falsetto, I never felt he sang "falsetto"
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They're doing Empire AND Rage.... go get a beer during American Soldier if you hate it that much.
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Is this the truth ?
 
Warning, Rage, and MC are probably all in my top 5 albums ever. PL and Empire are probably both top 25. I've always thought Rage was their hidden gem. If you catch me on the right day, it's my favorite album ever.

If I do make it to see them next month, I'm interested to see the American Soldier set. I feel I'd have a good chance of them playing most of the songs I like from it.

My only fear is that they don't dig deep enough on the other 2 suites. I've seen them 16 times so there aren't many songs from back then I haven't seen them do already.
 
tate said every tune from rage, empire and american soldier has been practiced and every tune will more than likely get played at least once. saying that i looked at the setlists they've done since 2001 and i think i counted this amount of songs played from each album at least once

E.P.-2
WARNING- 5
RAGE FOR ORDER-8
OPERATION MINDCRIME- ALL
EMPIRE-7
PROMISED LAND- 5
HITNF- 3
Q2K- 5
TRIBE- 6
OPERATION MINDCRIME 2-ALL
TAKE COVER- 4
non album tracks -3
 
I can't find the link currently, but the band did issue a press release where they listed the writers for each song, and they were credited to Kelly Gray, Jason Slater (the producer) and some other guy. Geoff only writes lyrics.

Promised Land is my favorite album ever, so I certainly hope they dig into that one for some material on subsequent tours. Rage is second on my QR list - definitely a diamond in the rough. You can't beat the vocals on Neue Regel. Really, though, everything pre-1995 is brilliant, so they can't go wrong.
 
optionthree said:
I can't find the link currently, but the band did issue a press release where they listed the writers for each song, and they were credited to Kelly Gray, Jason Slater (the producer) and some other guy. Geoff only writes lyrics.

Promised Land is my favorite album ever, so I certainly hope they dig into that one for some material on subsequent tours. Rage is second on my QR list - definitely a diamond in the rough. You can't beat the vocals on Neue Regel. Really, though, everything pre-1995 is brilliant, so they can't go wrong.
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its damon johnson as a songwriter who is in brother cane and the band slave to the system with scott and kelly
 
razoredge said:
I saw some vid on youtube of them sometime around the Empire tour with an interview. The guy asked them if they had been writing or coming up with new stuff or even ideas for "the next recording". Their answer was rather odd, something like "nothing" and to me in a sense that was a forecast of the future because they have never gotten back to anything remotely as awesome as MC and Empire.
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That "nothing" thing is for most bands, especially at that point. When you write an album, especially like Empire, you're so sick of the material that you need a break and writing new stuff is the last thing on your mind.

When you finish recording an album, you spend all of your time pushing that album and playing the songs from it. When you've been doing it for that long, usually you don't even think about doing another album for some time.

The Warning, OMC and Empire are what Queensryche is to me. Rage is OK with a few great tracks, I enjoy Q2K but still not the Queensryche I came to love. I dont think they had true staying power but were so big they had to keep going.
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That's a fair enough approach to Queensryche, and most people would agree. The sentiment "where's another Queen of the Reich" has been a sentiment of the last 15 years or so. I thought that way myself but once I got into Tribe, that began to change. I figured they still had several more albums and it appears their new material Queensryche still has something to offer. You either grow with them or you have to stop listening.

Was surprised to hear someone say something about Tate and falsetto, I never felt he sang "falsetto"
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I meant that in he never hit his upper registers (listen to HINTF he never gets up to the Queen of the Reich high E).

In regards to Tate, he sings using his "falsetto" but his upper range is so strong that it doesn't sounds like falsetto. It's still using his head voice (or upper vocal chords or whatever you want to call it), but they're "stronger" than most male's head voice.
 
mdmatt4ever said:
its damon johnson as a songwriter who is in brother cane and the band slave to the system with scott and kelly
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Yeah, basically Kelly, Damon and Slater wrote the album. Good on them though. I think Wilton should just stick mainly to writing solos anyways, he was never much of a writer in the band (Tate has confirmed this, and proof is looking at the credits - although he has penned some of their best songs).

One aspect of the new album I loved was the solos. They were AWESOME! Truly the saving grace. Listen to Killer, Wilton's solo in that sounds like it could have come from Empire.
 
poundingmetal74 said:
Yeah, basically Kelly, Damon and Slater wrote the album. Good on them though. I think Wilton should just stick mainly to writing solos anyways, he was never much of a writer in the band (Tate has confirmed this, and proof is looking at the credits - although he has penned some of their best songs).

One aspect of the new album I loved was the solos. They were AWESOME! Truly the saving grace. Listen to Killer, Wilton's solo in that sounds like it could have come from Empire.
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did you see what i said about tate's view on the HITNF album?


anyways this album just seems more inspired. like the band didn't really want to make OMC2.
 
mdmatt4ever said:
did you see what i said about tate's view on the HITNF album?.
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I did indeed. And that's how I've always felt about that album. The band wasn't on the same page and because DeGarmo wrote it at that stage of his life, it sucked. I just heard Spys 4 Darwin and was pretty unimpressed with that. I dunno if you'd like it, but it's like a mediocre version of HINTF.
 
poundingmetal74 said:
I did indeed. And that's how I've always felt about that album. The band wasn't on the same page and because DeGarmo wrote it at that stage of his life, it sucked. I just heard Spys 4 Darwin and was pretty unimpressed with that. I dunno if you'd like it, but it's like a mediocre version of HINTF.
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no thank you. i love HITNF but i don't want a weaker version of that
 
Im not looking for another Queen of the Reich, its not even a song I get really excited about, but dont get me wrong. It was primitive metal and aside from out of the typical vocal abilities it had no exclusive idenity. It could have been written by any heavy metal band of that period... and for the most part probably was... many times.

But Queen of the Reich is relevent to my desires in that I wish they would kick it up more, more hard driven emotion, more in yer face riffs. They are and have always been great at Lady Wore Black kind of stuff but damn boys you still got to kick it in the ass from time to time too. Like at least 5/8's to 3/4's of a recording or you become so damn redundent. Thats what I like about Empire, sure it was more of a rock recording than metal but their metal rootes shined through. It was a commercially viable version of Queensryche but they still kicked it in the ass for part of the record.

They need the replacement guitar player to be a riff creating maniac. Some chops that stick to your ribs
 
Operation MC : 2 Is pretty fucking good..Loved it when it came out..But if this isnt written by the band I'm not even gonna bother..wtf are you talking about? they didnt write any of this?
 
IntoPhagist said:
Operation MC : 2 Is pretty fucking good..Loved it when it came out..But if this isnt written by the band I'm not even gonna bother..wtf are you talking about? they didnt write any of this?
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omc 2 and american soldier are written by the same people. tate and jason slater with some help from other guys on a few tunes.
 
just listened to HITNF again. very underrated. complex and moody and probably the most personal queensryche album
 
METALDUDE said:
I think Sign Of The Times is a fine song :)
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spOOl, hit the black, you and get a life are also standout tracks. chasing blue sky was originally a bonus track on the import version and is better than at least 6 songs they put on the album. kinda weird.
 
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