question for drummer falsetodd

Well - I do prefer a varied sound in the snare drum, and I think that the snare is the *worst* place to use triggers, unless you can do it very subtly. The snare drum is the most apparent and frequently played drum on the kit in rock music, so it totally sticks out when every strike is homogenous.

That being said triggering the snare can help out in certain situations (blast beats!) - but it's not a crutch. There is a snare trigger recorded for the new motW album, but since we haven't mixed it yet I've no idea how much it will get used.

In addition, when we recorded Bath/LYBM I was playing on two kick drums as opposed to a double pedal. Jim (the engineer/producer) and I worked for awhile to get the two drums to sound alike, and just couldn't do it. So we triggered it. So anytime there is double bass stuff happening on those albums you are listening to a mix of natural drum sound and triggered sound. Probably the bass drum sound on the new one will involve triggering, too.

Adam (from Killswitch Engage) who also engineers at the studio triggers both kick and snare on pretty much every heavy record he does. He's really good at it and can make it subtle enough, by mixing it in with the mic'ed drum sound, that you don't even notice in the final product. It just sort of beefs up the original track.

I don't know which Opeth thing you mean in specific but if it's from Still Life on I'm surprised - I would have thought the producer or whoever would catch something like that...It could be that he (the drummer) is sometimes hitting rim shots (snare head and snare rim at the same time) and that's giving the "snappier" sound. That's pretty much how I hit my snare drum every time, at least in the heavy sections. By this point it doesn't feel natural just to strike the head.

And yes, we overdubbed a ride cymbal part on Stones (which I was originally against, but have now come to like) and the big floor tom roll at the end of Garden Song.
 
one thing I've done with recording is to put a speaker on a snare drum and feed the snare track through it and rerecord it onto a new track. Mix the two tracks for a beefed up sound that's a lot more 'real' and roomy.
 
ok i guess i was wrong about stones, or maybe it was even a different song that i was thinking , it was a while ago when i noticed it and cant remember.
and the opeth song is on the album "blackwater park"
 
sam or ezekiel...how can i perform those ultra fast beats on the snare?...you know, the ones like napalm death and morbid angel have.

ah, i'm still upset with my hi-hat dominion...so, help me: opeth's benighted...when the drums start, the hi-hat sound is like this...ts,ts,ts,tsssss,ts,ts,ts,tsssss...how can i do that "tsssss"?
 
The Opeth thing: The first three are with the hi hat closed or mostly closed, the fourth hit you let up on the pedal and hit the cymbals more open...

The blast beat: usually its just bass snare bass snare bass snare with the ride cymbal or hi hat hit at the same time as the bass drum. Start slowly and work up your speed. Eventually you end up using more of your wrists then your arms, cause you play faster that way. The drummer from Vader plays the tightest (if not the fastest) blast beats I've ever seen. His wrists hardly move....he plays by having the stick rotate on a pivot created by his index finger and thumb. Then he uses the rest of his fingers to "snap" the stick forward. Somehow he hits with power doing this. It's amazing.
 
now that i think about it, you're absolutely right (of course). it was girl with a watering can that i was thinking of, i just got confused.
ecto, the best way for faster beats is to use your wrists and not realy your arms. that's what works best for me and i believe for most drummers. and the hi-hat is all about your foot. i like to keep the top hi-hat a hair above the bottom one to where it's pretty much touching it, but u can still close it tighter with your foot yet get that tsssss sound with no foot at all. or if u prefer, just keep ur foot mostly down to put the hi-hat in the same position, to where the 2 cymbals are just touching. putting your foot all the way down will get that short tss sound.
i think that explains it, it was probablly redundant redundant tho.