i have a yamaha MG166c usb and i use cubase 5, is their a way i could use my mixer to actully mix on becuase atm i can only use it to record audio onto cubase but i want to assign certain tracks to each channel on my mixer so i can mix on it but so far i have been unsuccessful
quick question about mixing
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Trevoire520
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No. The Yamaha is an analogue mixer with a usb out to record to a computer. It is not a control surface. The only way to mix on the Yamaha would be to buy a audio interface with several outputs and send channels from your DAW to these outputs, and then connect these to the inputs on the yamaha. And then you would have to come back out the yamaha and into the DAW again to record your master track.
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
in other words, NO hahaha
you need a control surface for that, there are tons on the market and with varying price ranges, do a search on thomman, zzounds or any music equipment site
Trevoire520 could you give me an example of what i would need to get to be able to do this, i just hope i havent just watsed money on buying this mixer becasue i thought becuase of it being usb i could mix on it aswell
TheWinterSnow
Den Mørke Natt
well that helped me out alot thanks, i only asked for a bit of help on the subject for pointless comments
Trevoire520
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Best bet is to sell the mixer and pick up a control surface dude.
On the cheap there's the Behringer BCF2000 or the Korg Nanocontrol. There's also stuff by M audio, Euphonix, Mackie etc.
On the cheap there's the Behringer BCF2000 or the Korg Nanocontrol. There's also stuff by M audio, Euphonix, Mackie etc.
The only thing the USB connection does is recording the stereo output. Nothing less, nothing more.
thanks everyone for your help but after having this mixer for about 2 weeks i now want to get rid of it, the company i bought it off said a cant have a refund but i can exchange it so i have to buy something else form this website http://music.andertons.co.uk/ if anyone can help me buy something else so i can record 8-10 tracks into DAW i would be very greatful, i can go upto about £450 - £500
Trevoire520
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This will get you 8 inputs into your DAW, and has ADAT and SPDIF inputs so eventually you could have 26 inputs and outputs:
http://www.andertons.co.uk/interfac...ire-2626-firewire-if-w-8-mic-pres-adat-io.asp
Then you can grab this to use a controller for the faders and pan pots:
http://www.andertons.co.uk/controll...613/behringer-bcf2000-usb-midi-controller.asp
Just out of your budget at £540 for the pair.
Then when you have some spare cash and need more inputs and outputs you can grab this:
http://www.andertons.co.uk/studio-o...7/behringer-ada8000-ultragain-pro-ada8000.asp
http://www.andertons.co.uk/interfac...ire-2626-firewire-if-w-8-mic-pres-adat-io.asp
Then you can grab this to use a controller for the faders and pan pots:
http://www.andertons.co.uk/controll...613/behringer-bcf2000-usb-midi-controller.asp
Just out of your budget at £540 for the pair.
Then when you have some spare cash and need more inputs and outputs you can grab this:
http://www.andertons.co.uk/studio-o...7/behringer-ada8000-ultragain-pro-ada8000.asp
DanLights
Santa Hat Forever
that sound pretty good in my opinion, exactly what i need but just at a bit of a comparison so i dont make another mistake what about:
http://www.andertons.co.uk/studio-mixers/pid9757/cid605/alesis-multimix-16-usb-20-mixer.asp
http://www.andertons.co.uk/studio-mixers/pid9757/cid605/alesis-multimix-16-usb-20-mixer.asp
Trevoire520
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That would give you 18 inputs into your DAW
"Unlike its predecessor, the Multimix 16 features 18 discrete outputs to your computer"
But it wouldn't act as a controller like the BCF2000 would. And it wouldn't let you send stuff out from your DAW to mix on the board as it only has "2 return inputs for monitoring"
The Alesis is also nowhere near the quality of the Profire, which could last you your entire recording career to be honest.
"Unlike its predecessor, the Multimix 16 features 18 discrete outputs to your computer"
But it wouldn't act as a controller like the BCF2000 would. And it wouldn't let you send stuff out from your DAW to mix on the board as it only has "2 return inputs for monitoring"
The Alesis is also nowhere near the quality of the Profire, which could last you your entire recording career to be honest.
im gonna go for the profire thanks for your help. I have had a look on the internet for a control surface but all of them have 8 faders, do you think there is any chance of getting one with 10 -12 for maybe £300 or am i asking dar too much for my money
Trevoire520
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No way you're going to get something that cheap with more than 8 faders dude. You'd be looking at spending some serious coin for something like that.
You might be able to get 2 8 fader ones and use them both at the same time? But this isn't something I've got experience in doing so I can't guarantee it would work.
You'd probably be surprised how much you can get done with 8 faders though dude.
You might be able to get 2 8 fader ones and use them both at the same time? But this isn't something I've got experience in doing so I can't guarantee it would work.
You'd probably be surprised how much you can get done with 8 faders though dude.
guitarguru777
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Honestly I say screw the control surface and use the mixer in your DAW. You can spend the money on more inputs / vst's / better mics, you would be way more productive.
waltz mastering
Member
Depends what you're ultimately looking to do?
You can mix on the Yamaha, but would need as many channels of da as you want to bring into your mixer and then have a stereo ad to bring the mix from the Yamaha back to digital... not sure what the usb does.
Can look into faderport for external controlling
http://www.zzounds.com/item--PRSFADERPORT
...which is assignable to any channel or group if you just want to control transport, fader, mute, solo, and pan.
Basically if you want to mix analog your going to have to buy 12 to 16 da's or you can buy a digital mixer... control surface.. they're all a bit different.
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I have to deal with 166cx-usb and i hate it.There are 2in 2out USB. it's completely useless for a studio.
i have one more day to buy something and i think i will be getting the profire and the behringer but i have 2 questions.
1. will the behringer defenitly be used for mixing audio becuase in the name 'midi controller' to me it just looks like it will do midi?
2. after lookin at specs on both the profire and behringer it doesnt have any phono outs so i can use my monitors unless i use a small jack to jack via the headphone input on my laptop to my monitors but i do have an edirol UA-25, could i use that just for the audio output and it would interfere with the profire?
1. will the behringer defenitly be used for mixing audio becuase in the name 'midi controller' to me it just looks like it will do midi?
2. after lookin at specs on both the profire and behringer it doesnt have any phono outs so i can use my monitors unless i use a small jack to jack via the headphone input on my laptop to my monitors but i do have an edirol UA-25, could i use that just for the audio output and it would interfere with the profire?
Trevoire520
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The behringer is a midi controller for your DAW. It controls the DAW via MIDI. I use it every day for controlling my faders and pan pots in pro tools.
For hooking up to your monitors just get some jack-phono cables and hook it up to outputs 1 and 2 on the profire.
