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Lord Byron
My Uncle Is A Retard
Dear America,
Welcome to the 21st Century and universal healthcare which has existed here for decades.
Yours Sincerely,
Lots of Love,
Europe.
xxx
Welcome to the 21st Century and universal healthcare which has existed here for decades.
Yours Sincerely,
Lots of Love,
Europe.
xxx
Cerulean
Not very cerulean eh
So... The stuff in Moore's documentary 'Sicko' belongs to the past now? Kinda felt medieval anyway.
Lisra
starlight spectre
Definitely the most head-scratching remarks come from this issue.. I wonder how it'll work out.
isolation_years
Member
makes me glad we have free healthcare in canada. everything is just so easy, get sick, go get fixed
isolation_years
Member
just downloaded google chrome after spending my entire life on internet explorer
i didnt know there were internet browsers that worked
i didnt know there were internet browsers that worked
Lisra
starlight spectre
There's.. you know..
www.getfirefox.com
And, because its from my country: www.opera.com
and like 20 more..
www.getfirefox.com
And, because its from my country: www.opera.com
and like 20 more..
Katatonic89
Member
Cerulean
Not very cerulean eh
Like the others said... Firefox.
Have you been living under a rock?
Opera sucks, doesn't matter which county it's from
Have you been living under a rock?
Opera sucks, doesn't matter which county it's from
AngelinaBlakkheim
Menacing meow
isolation_years
Member
hahaha, i was going for firefox (since internet explorer is total garbage), but someone suggested chrome is better
i have firefox at school though.....it does what its supposed to haha
i have firefox at school though.....it does what its supposed to haha
LifeDepraved
My soul got a crack
I haven't dug much into the subject...but it all sounds unconstitutional. The government can't force you to purchase insurance from some third party source. This smells like utter bullshit. What about the ones that can't afford it? They get fined. Then we have the low lives on welfare, not saying they all are, but admit to yourself, most of them are just pathetic wastes of air ripping us all off...and seems like it will continue to be like that.
God bless America indeed.
BlueSky
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Heard this quite a few times already, and quite frankly it's a real hoot. If you drive a car legally you have to have car insurance. Granted you don't have to drive, but I'd wager the majority of the work force has at least one car in their driveway. I love how these politicians think they can get away with saying cripe like this as if no one listening has a clue."Exemptions will be granted for those in financial hardship, which is measured using the poverty line."
LifeDepraved
My soul got a crack
desiredusername
Member
BlueSky, car insurance is regulated by each state. Not the federal government. Technically, permitting their individual constitution permits them to do so, each state can force its citizens to purchase health insurance.
If I don't fish, I'm not required to buy a fishing license. I don't have to own a house; I can rent or live in a shelter or on the street. If I don't drive, I am not forced to buy car insurance. You can "wager" all you want; it holds no validity and that is not how the federal, or state, government system works. Funny try, though. Your entire logic is flawed and ignorant.
In all of your examples, you are forced to buy insurance only after making a choice to commit to those things in the first place. The government is forcing us to buy health insurance simply because we are alive. There is no initial choice of responsibility as with your silly other examples. That is where this debate is.
If I don't fish, I'm not required to buy a fishing license. I don't have to own a house; I can rent or live in a shelter or on the street. If I don't drive, I am not forced to buy car insurance. You can "wager" all you want; it holds no validity and that is not how the federal, or state, government system works. Funny try, though. Your entire logic is flawed and ignorant.
In all of your examples, you are forced to buy insurance only after making a choice to commit to those things in the first place. The government is forcing us to buy health insurance simply because we are alive. There is no initial choice of responsibility as with your silly other examples. That is where this debate is.
BlueSky
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/tra_mot_veh-transportation-motor-vehicles
http://www.carinsurance.com/kb/content20009.aspx
I'm looking at things logically through statistics so please don't bore me with your trivialities. You'd have to be completely oblivious not to draw the comparison. 48 states require you to have liability insurance, and both the two that don't either demand you meet certain financial requirements or get insurance (the majority of drivers in both states appease the law by buying auto insurance). Now remember this, a car is crucial part to survival for many modern Americans. As the job industries expanded to meet the means to support the population, many people were forced to adopt a vehicle. If I didn't have a car I wouldn't be able to hold down any of the jobs that I've had, which pay for my food, and shelter. I know it's a requirement for many workers in a variety of different fields. You're already forced into buying things whether you're fully aware of it or not.
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/014227.html
Furthermore according to the latest census report, the majority (about 255 million) have health insurance already. Approximately 46 million people don't have health insurance, and those numbers are by in large (39.8 mill to be exact) in direct correlation with the poverty line that will be exempt from paying for health insurance. So that leaves basically six million that don't do so either by choice or were denied because of a pre-existing condition.
What the real issue the Republicans have is that the health insurance companies, pharmaceutics, and medical supply companies will be taxed greatly starting 2011. They wanted (still trying their hardest) the bill to fail is because they have great stock in these companies that have taken advantage of the people for many years. Sorry if I fail to see the issue here.
http://www.carinsurance.com/kb/content20009.aspx
I'm looking at things logically through statistics so please don't bore me with your trivialities. You'd have to be completely oblivious not to draw the comparison. 48 states require you to have liability insurance, and both the two that don't either demand you meet certain financial requirements or get insurance (the majority of drivers in both states appease the law by buying auto insurance). Now remember this, a car is crucial part to survival for many modern Americans. As the job industries expanded to meet the means to support the population, many people were forced to adopt a vehicle. If I didn't have a car I wouldn't be able to hold down any of the jobs that I've had, which pay for my food, and shelter. I know it's a requirement for many workers in a variety of different fields. You're already forced into buying things whether you're fully aware of it or not.
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/014227.html
Furthermore according to the latest census report, the majority (about 255 million) have health insurance already. Approximately 46 million people don't have health insurance, and those numbers are by in large (39.8 mill to be exact) in direct correlation with the poverty line that will be exempt from paying for health insurance. So that leaves basically six million that don't do so either by choice or were denied because of a pre-existing condition.
What the real issue the Republicans have is that the health insurance companies, pharmaceutics, and medical supply companies will be taxed greatly starting 2011. They wanted (still trying their hardest) the bill to fail is because they have great stock in these companies that have taken advantage of the people for many years. Sorry if I fail to see the issue here.
Lisra
starlight spectre
When I can't pay my health insurance (ie. if my parents died tomorrow cos they are paying mine) the state pays it. Gods bless socialist Germany.
There are a number of semi-federal insurances which for example is where businesses can insure their employees. There are independent insurances with better service open to anyone with more cash.
Lord Byron
My Uncle Is A Retard
Slightly related but I just had to go to a doctor that I don't usually go to, as my family doctor is in my home town over 4 hours away, got diagnosed and picked up my medication. How much did I pay? Not one cent.
Lisra
starlight spectre
