rare prog from early 70s

Yeah, so I ended up getting Camel - The snow goose and Gentle giant - octopus for christmas. I must say, Camel is one of my new favourite bands. The Snow goose is incredible, and since obtaining Mirage my opinion on them has only escalated. Gentle giant is very interesting. The vocal harmonies are insane and the grooves feel very pink floydish to me. I definitely like them, but they're much harder to swallow than Camel (I know their sounds are much different, i'm just speaking in generalities). I hope to gets some caravan soon, but I just wanted to say how pleased I am with my acquisitions.
 
Well, NFU didn't answer my question. But I listened to some samples of Gentle Giants "pop years" and I would just like to say that I am disgusted.
I thought the people on ProgArchives were just being elitist and I guess I was in denial that Gentle Giant could forsake the art of good music and forget about that paragraph in Aquiring the Taste

"It is our goal to expand the frontiers of contemporary music at the risk of being very unpopular. we have recorded each composition with the one thought - that it should be unique, adventurous and fascinating. It has taken every shred of our combined musical and technical knowledge to achieve this. From the outset we have abandoned all preconceived thoughts on blatant commercialism. Instead we hope to give you something far more substantial and fulfilling. All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste."

In'terview didn't excite me much. But I'll buy it anyway.
The Missing Piece had two songs that sounded OK.
Giant for a Day was atrocious.
I gave up at Civilian Giant for a Day made me come close to vomiting.

These three albums fail even as an attempt at "blatant commercialism."

wtf?! how could they do that????!!!!!!
 
just about every single prog band did that, so im confused as to why youre so offended at gentle giants frusteration with the music business and its politics and their eventual crossover to attempted commercialism. King Crimson was the only "big" prog band to always stay somewhat against the grain.

Genesis
Yes
ELP
Camel
Rush
Gentle Giant
the moody blues

all AT LEAST dabbled in pop structures and flirtation with commerciality eventually. the fact that the progressive movement became a critical joke to most people by about 1978 didnt help things. had everything stayed on track, things might have been different.
 
^ I didn't realize that was such a widespread trend. Prog is far from my native language. I knew many bands were pressured into changing their sound. My question and complaint then goes towards every band that did that. Why were they compelled to go commercial? I assume it was for money. But why was everything smooth sailing till 1978?
 
Braighs said:
^ I didn't realize that was such a widespread trend. Prog is far from my native language. I knew many bands were pressured into changing their sound. My question and complaint then goes towards every band that did that. Why were they compelled to go commercial? I assume it was for money. But why was everything smooth sailing till 1978?

disco in america. punk rock in england. and the public gets bored too. since the late 60s it had been about MUSIC a lot. music changed directions. and later would come new wave, etc. nobody wanted to hear long fantasyesque songs anymore. people wanted instant gratification to match the excesses of the night life and social scenes which would come about.
 
a deserved bump

i always say this... but in reference to the post above... lol at tales from topographic oceans debuting at #1
 
Shadows Skulk said:
I've just in the past two weeks gotten into prog and psych (much based on this thread) and thus far I've got:
Arzachel - s/t
Cactus - s/t
Camel - Moonmadness
Caravan - s/t, ITLOGAP
Fraction - Moon Blood
Pinnacle - Cyborg Assassin
Taste of Blues - Schizofrenia
Van Der Graaf Generator - H to He, Still Life, The Least We Could Do is Wave to Each Other

Does anyone have an opinion on the following bands?
Ancient Grease
Apple
Bohemian Vendetta
Christopher
Hunger
Jody Grind
Khazad Doom
Mystic Siva
Rufus Zuphall
Tomorrow

Thanks



lol wow my prog/psych collection is over a thousand albums by now
 
Flasket is a GASket.

Here, I'll save ya the time it takes to read through umpzeen pages of the thread:

Yes: every album up to 1980
Genesis: every album up to 1977
Gentle Giant: every album up to 1977
Van der Graaf Generator: go get all of 'em
Jethro Tull: every album up to 1981
Pink Floyd: every album up to 1983
Camel: every last fucking one
Caravan: get it all up to Stunning Cunts
Renaissance: you're safe until you hit 1978
King Crimson: you're good up until 1982, and then maybe Thrak and Power to Believe
Strawbs: grab it all through 1974
Barclay James Harvest: 1978 is the year ya wanna stop
Brian Eno: pretty much everything he touches, including the peanuts in his shit. Wash 'em off.
Steve Hackett: solo albums up to Defector in 1980. To Watch the Storms 2003.
PFM: get the Italian records up to 1974
Anglagard: gotta have the two studio records
Le Orme: Contrappunti
UK: first two
Kansas: first four albums = classic american prog
Anekdoten: Gravity
Nektar: the first four
England: Garden Shed
Bo Hansson: Attic Thoughts, LoTR, Magician's Hat
Jon Anderson: Olias
Chris Squire: Fish out of Water
Steve Howe Album
Soft Machine Third
Khan: Space Shanty
Egg
Hatfield and the North

Alrighty then, them's the major players. Now read through the thread for various asundry items of interest and impeccable quality.