Real Vocals!

Brotherelf

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Ok everyone,
I'm hearing an awful lot out there about people being afraid
or "disliking" growling vocals. At least you've given Opeth a chance, but now that you're a little "descensitized" to better vocals, (for those of you newly introduced to better music) why don't you try out some of the following bands...
Suffocation
Bolt Thrower
Cannibal Corpse
Malevolent Creation
Gorefest
There's plenty more where that came from.

Comments/Other band selections welcome & demanded
:)
 
Metal Vocals are all fine and dandy, yes. But I think there are SOME examples where it goes too far. When it comes to the point that you can't make any words out whatsoever, even with the lyrics in front of you... that's not good.

Some examples are,

sections of Cradle of Filth, where there aren't enough syllables to fill words listed in the booklet.

Mayhem - Wolf's Lair Abyss - I could understand not a single word of this album. Anyone wanna buy this cd, really cheap? ;)
..

and others in the spirit of those..

It takes a helluva lot of talent to do metal growling or screaming/shrieking.. it's sad to hear a voice go sour over time.
 
Duvall-

You hit it right on the head. I bougth Cradle's Vempire CD. I couldn't figure out what they were saying, even as I held the lyric sheet, and tried to follow along. A couple of times, I thought I was in the right place, only to learn I was three verses ahead or behind.

GZ
 
Come on now, don't leave out None So Vile! I've always said from first listen, that album just makes me laugh! Every time. The vocals seemed flat out ridiculous. The music itself was cool, but I couldn't take those vocals very long.

:lol: (thinking about it now)
 
Napalm Death's 'Scum' takes the cake for undecipherable lyrics. I think that Lee Dorian was trying to speak Dog when he recorded that album.

Brotherelf, good call on the Gorefest. False remains one of the most beautifully sung death metals albums to date. It sounds like he could command the armies of hell. But I can't see the attraction for Suffocation. It feels like they didn't even try. Too generic. I'd rather listen to Brujeria.
 
hahahah, funny stuff, ok, my turn now:

Once I was feeling rich and stupid and I went into a record store (after finally having gotten into the earth-shattering Morningrise and thinking all death metal is this cool) and I went to the metal section to take a look-see. I spotted at album that looked particularly cool/evil/deep, Katyklism's 'The Mystical Gate of Reincarnation'. I thought wow, with a name like that it's got to be totally progressive and totally cool (me being a mythical theology/fantasy buff), so I bought it ($30 cdn!) You can't imagine my horror, it's was fucking ridiculous! Unfortuanately I didn't laugh so hard that I got my 30 bucks worth from it. The 'vocals' are just some schlong talking into an effects box, major octaver effect which dropped the key very very very low (and subsequently out of key), so low that at times it just rumbled and didn't sound like a voice or anything for that matter. It was such a pathetic attempt to sound evil. I too tried following along with lyrics but it was just pointless, incoherent gibberish. It wasn't vocals, it was just noise, worse than I ever thought possible.

So I ignored the vocals and tried listening to the guitars, and it was pretty lame from that angle too. The songs really didn't go anywhere and were about as epic as little bow wow or some shit.

So I gave the CD to my nephew who put it on his wall as a decoration. Eventually he used it as a cat toy and had some fun pitching around the back yard like a ninja star, hehe. Then like a year later I was visiting them (my sister) and I had brought my new baby parrot cockatoo along and he spotted the still shiney CD amongst the cat toys and begged for it, so we gave it to him and he totally destroyed it into little bits. Ahh, the satisfaction. The terrible saga had come to an end and a wretched $30 mistake had been righted as the shiney platic bits fell to the floor.

This leads me to wonder, who the hell gives these guys record deals? Can they actually be making money off this garbage? I don't see how this is possible. I realize that there are bands out there that I don't like and they do their own thing and I respect that, but seriously, how this music ever made it to disc and then to a popular record store is quite beyond my comprehension. This, while acts like Soul Forlorn and Thales remain unsigned and countless other top-notch musicians work at mr. greek. I don't get it and I've stopped trying to understand it. Perhaps someone on this board can explain it to me.

root of all evil,

Satori
 
Originally posted by Opet
Come on now, don't leave out None So Vile! I've always said from first listen, that album just makes me laugh! Every time. The vocals seemed flat out ridiculous. The music itself was cool, but I couldn't take those vocals very long.

:lol: (thinking about it now)


man, I love None so vile. that album is awesome and I think Lord Worm is a great vocalist, much better than their new guy. I don't even try to understand him, I just listen to the music. i like all metal, from helloween to cryptopsy. I cant' explain why I like either. they both server different purposes. extreme vocals aren't meant to carry a song whereas in a band like blind gaurdian, the vocals are a center piece of the song. they provide the main melody that you pay attention to.

i agree that kataklysm sucks. I don't like that band at all. their old drummer (from the temple of knowledge) plays in a punk band in denver now called fast action revolver. anyway.

np: zyklon world ov worms (great extreme vocals and still understandable. )
 
sections of Cradle of Filth, where there aren't enough syllables to fill words listed in the booklet.

Mayhem - Wolf's Lair Abyss - I could understand not a single word of this album. Anyone wanna buy this cd, really cheap?
CoF suck, as for the mayhem album, i'd love it!

I'm hearing an awful lot out there about people being afraid
or "disliking" growling vocals. At least you've given Opeth a chance, but now that you're a little "descensitized" to better vocals, (for those of you newly introduced to better music) why don't you try out some of the following bands...
Suffocation
Bolt Thrower
Cannibal Corpse
Malevolent Creation
Gorefest
There's plenty more where that came from.
i don't think anyone who just started hearing Opeth will immediatly like those bands... something like DT or in flames will be more appropriate.
 
Suffocation is great!

I was listening to 'Pierced From Within' a little while ago, and it was fucking great. Very technical, very good.

Bolt Thrower is alright. I hate Cannibal Corpse with a passion. The other bands are mediocre (to me).

I'll stick with Opeth and Suffocation :cool:
 
Originally posted by Duvall
Metal Vocals are all fine and dandy, yes. But I think there are SOME examples where it goes too far. When it comes to the point that you can't make any words out whatsoever, even with the lyrics in front of you... that's not good.

Some examples are,

sections of Cradle of Filth, where there aren't enough syllables to fill words listed in the booklet.

Mayhem - Wolf's Lair Abyss - I could understand not a single word of this album. Anyone wanna buy this cd, really cheap? ;)
..

and others in the spirit of those..

It takes a helluva lot of talent to do metal growling or screaming/shrieking.. it's sad to hear a voice go sour over time.

I'll definitely take WLA, I can't find that fucker anywhere!!! E-mail me: af@dumah.com
 
This, while acts like Soul Forlorn and Thales remain unsigned and countless other top-notch musicians work at mr. greek. I don't get it and I've stopped trying to understand it. Perhaps someone on this board can explain it to me.

Our society perpetually supports the proliferation of utter crap, especially if it can put consumer dollars into the pockets of the completely untalented. I wish I had a more comprehensive explaination of how this happens but "people are stupid" is all I can ever come back to. Rap exists. Religion exists. 95% of the stuff found on television (that somebody made on purpose, no less) exists... I take this all as proof and accept the existence of artistic injustice to aid my already deteriorating mental health.

Incidentally, I stand by that the coolest death vocals are found on the Bloodbath mini-CD.
 
I can understand how some of you don't like it when the words in some of the "Growling band" booklets don't match up with the actual song itself, but most the time I just listen to the vocals as I would the music itself and just consider it another "Instrument of music." (A good instrument too, when it comes to growls & burps)

I even get a kick out of Mortician every once in a while:D

Incidentally, I stand by that the coolest death vocals are found on the Bloodbath mini-CD.

Yes, those are pretty good. I just got my long overdue copy last week. I wish they could do more, but Opeth must go on.:)
 
You should be ablt to find it at pretty much any on-line music store. I got mine at digilot.com
Also, when you buy any Century Media CD, they usually come with a mail order list. I've seen it on that list for $6.
Buy it soon! It's a must!
 
Originally posted by HoserHellspawn
Incidentally, I stand by that the coolest death vocals are found on the Bloodbath mini-CD.

Hmm.. Mikael did these eh? What is it about them that make them so cool? How could it possibly be cooler than the vocals on any of the latest 3 opeth albums?

lard tunderin geesus b'y,

Satori
 
Have you ever heard 'em?

Basically, they just sound heavier than the vocals he does with Opeth... they're most similar to the vocals that kick off "The Leper Affinity" but they sound like they have this forceful wind behind them... it's really cool.

My favourite part, though, comes in the second track "Ominous Bloodvomit" (Heh, I still say the record is part parody). There's a line that goes "blah blah blah... terror, blood, guts and gore" and Mikael, Dan, Anders, and Jonas each take turns saying the line in their heaviest death voice. There's just something cool about all these gods of more progressive metal getting together and just sorta "growling out".

Anyways, enough of my praddle. ...Is that a word?
 
In Dimmu Borgir, I really love the other singer they've had on the last two albums. He's been operatically trained and fits into black metal perfectly.

As for extreme vocals, Hecate Enthroned has alot. Also, (I'm pretty sure most ppl won't know them) but an Australian band called "Crypt" has THE heaviest, deepest, most scarry death vox I have ever heard. :heh: Check it out if u get the chance.