Reaper + Guitar Rig (a few questions)

[Plendakor]

Yeah well I'm currently "not" using VSTs or software simulations when I record because I use Reason 6 and a GT-10. So I cannot re-amp (well I can but it's complicated) and I cannot load VSTs.

So I'm not dunping the platform but I'm looking for another way, perhaps better, at least for recording some metal stuff of mine.

I got the Guitar Rig 5 demo, didn't try yet but I'm sure it's awesome, there's no question there. But can you record a DI and re-amp it ? Is it worth paying the 500$, can you make a whole album with that ?
What's cool with Reaper is that I can use those impulses.. the downside for me is the editing. Need to tame that.

 

[AntonioPetrole]

Please read the stickies and learn the correct definitions to the terms you are using. It is very frustrating to see posts like this when they are the absolute basics that have been covered a million times

 

[Plendakor]

Correct definitions ? I use correct definitions...
If you are frustrated, take a pill boy.

 

[StefTD]

What's cool with Reaper is that I can use those impulses.. the downside for me is the editing. Need to tame that.

Correct definitions ? I use correct definitions...

maybe-but it seems like you have no clue at all what you're talking about...

Reaper is a DAW, like Logic, Cubase, Nuendo and so on, it doesn't make sounds and you don't have
to edit at all if you don't want to...
Besides that, you can use impulses with every DAW because you don't load the impulses in the DAW,
you load them into a VST and you load that VST in the DAW itself.

About the sound quality of Guitar Rig, especially for Metal-I don't like it, most of the guys around here
don't like it, too, there are much better freeware Ampsims out there, I won't tell you because there
are loads of threads about that topic around here, just use the search function or look at the
stickies.

Besides that, roflsaurusrex is right, it is frustrating and similar questions were already answered before!

 

[viralz]

Well I agree with roflsaurusrex, your post is really confusing.

You say you can't reamp and can't load VSTs....wut?

You're dumping the platform....What platform?

You ask if you can record DI and reamp it.... If you read the stickies you would know that.

Is it worth paying the 500$....paying for what exactly?

Can you record a whole album with that?....well if we knew what the hell you where talking about we could give you an answer.


Before calling people frustrated and tell them to take a pill at least make sure your question is clear.

 

[chesterfieldblues]

Is it worth paying the 500$....paying for what exactly?

I think it is about buying some weed, but I'm not sure.

 

[AntonioPetrole]

Correct definitions ? I use correct definitions...
If you are frustrated, take a pill boy.

Cool man

Yeah well I'm currently "not" using VSTs or software simulations when I record because I use Reason 6 and a GT-10. So I cannot re-amp (well I can but it's complicated) and I cannot load VSTs.

So I'm not dunping the platform but I'm looking for another way, perhaps better, at least for recording some metal stuff of mine.

I got the Guitar Rig 5 demo, didn't try yet but I'm sure it's awesome, there's no question there. But can you record a DI and re-amp it ? Is it worth paying the 500$, can you make a whole album with that ?
What's cool with Reaper is that I can use those impulses.. the downside for me is the editing. Need to tame that.

Here is why your post didn't make sense.

"I'm currently "not" using VSTs or software simulations when I record"

Exactly what is "not" using VSTs?

"So I cannot re-amp (well I can but it's complicated)"

What?!

"and I cannot load VSTs"

Why? Are you using Pro Tools or are you running on Atari DOS?

"So I'm not dunping the platform but I'm looking for another way, perhaps better, at least for recording some metal stuff of mine."

No idea what the "platform" you are referring to is. Your OS? Your workflow?

"I got the Guitar Rig 5 demo, didn't try yet but I'm sure it's awesome, there's no question there"

What a ridiculous claim

"But can you record a DI and re-amp it ?"

I can, can you?

"Is it worth paying the 500$, can you make a whole album with that?"

What you ended up saying here is is it worth paying $500 to reamp your DIs or can you record a DI and reamp your whole album like that

"What's cool with Reaper is that I can use those impulses"

What impulses are you talking about? You never brought up impulses and I don't know any DAW's other than something ridiculous like sound recorder that you couldn't use an impulse loader with

"The downside for me is the editing. Need to tame that."

This is the only thing that somewhat was understandable.

I was trying to help you but now you made yourself look like an asshole. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just saying that if you read up on the process of reamping and Reaper workflow etc. you would have all of your questions answered. The only posts we need on this forum are ones you can't look up in a minute. The reason its bad for somebody to just fire out answers for all of your questions is that you are not learning the concepts and fundamentals to these subjects, which will lead you to ask more questions 2 days from now.

Start here. Its not like I haven't posted questions like these to when I started out here, but I quickly learned to be respectful and take advice

http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=007593470310830667409:4qw46y8lnza

Edit: Not saying your new, just referring to myself

 

[Plendakor]

maybe-but it seems like you have no clue at all what you're talking about...

Reaper is a DAW, like Logic, Cubase, Nuendo and so on, it doesn't make sounds and you don't have
to edit at all if you don't want to...
Besides that, you can use impulses with every DAW because you don't load the impulses in the DAW,
you load them into a VST and you load that VST in the DAW itself.

Don't worry, I know what I'm talking about quite well lol.

Reason 6 is a DAW that does NOT support VSTs. It's a semi-closed platform, they just let 3rd party devellopers enter their market with "Rack Extension", their own sort of VST format that only works with Reason, about 2 weeks ago. Those are VST ports but as of yet, it's mostly synths, no impulse loader, no pre-amp sims... you know ? So I can't use impulses in Reason 6 (you can't use Reason 6 as a master DAW, only slave)

Now the editing.
I mean, the editing is a lot easier and very fun in Reason 6, but I'm not used to it in Reaper, the tools are not at the same place, the pianoroll is not the same, it's a differant car if you will.

Hope this clears things lol

 

[Plendakor]

Well I agree with roflsaurusrex, your post is really confusing.

You say you can't reamp and can't load VSTs....wut?

You're dumping the platform....What platform?

You ask if you can record DI and reamp it.... If you read the stickies you would know that.

Is it worth paying the 500$....paying for what exactly?

Can you record a whole album with that?....well if we knew what the hell you where talking about we could give you an answer.


Before calling people frustrated and tell them to take a pill at least make sure your question is clear.

I can't.
Reason 6.
While playing in Guitar Rig.
500$ for Guitar Rig.
With guitar rig.

 

[Terminus]

Guitar Rig costs 300 bucks @ Musician's Fiend. And it's not worth it when you look at all the other (free) stuff that's available.

My big question is why Reason 6 when you stated Reaper in the title of this thread.

 

[Plendakor]

there are much better freeware Ampsims out there, I won't tell you because there
are loads of threads about that topic around here, just use the search function or look at the
stickies.

Oh you probably talk about Lepoux. I tried them and it's neat.

 

[AntonioPetrole]

I can't.
Reason 6.
While playing in Guitar Rig.
500$ for Guitar Rig.
With guitar rig.

Okay I'm gonna try to help you on this one.

Dump Reason 6, there are plenty of amp sims that are free that sound stellar including

http://lepouplugins.blogspot.com/

http://www.theserinaexperiment.net/website/home.htm

Lepou has a plugin called Lecab which is used for loading impulses and seems to be the general consensus as far as impulse loaders are concerned.

The new update for recabinet is also pretty great

http://www.recabi.net/

Its not an impulse loader but it is a cab simulator

Don't get guitar rig, I can guarantee the free stuff sounds better

WHY can't you use Vst's? Please give us an explanation why you can't

Essentially recording DI's and running them through amp sims is like reamping, but your not actually sending any signal out of your DAW, just applying effects.

I can't think of one reason you can't do that for an album

You can also hit up guys around here and send them your DI's and have them reamped (I recommend this for any real projects or albums)

I recommend these guys for reamping if you have the money

http://www.facebook.com/456recordings

http://www.systematicproductions.com/index.htm (not positive if he reamps)

http://www.thetomatofarmstudio.com/

Again, Reaper is a DAW, it hosts the plugins that load impulses so essentially you can use any DAW to load impulses, I do recommend Reaper myself though. As far as editing you just need to practice and optimize your workflow with hotkeys etc.

Edit: How the hell did you use the Lepou stuff if you can't load Vst's?

 

[dale_a_smith]

Think the dude said he can't use VSTs cos Reason doesn't support them, so its not much use for this kinda thing..

Reaper is a great..

 

[AntonioPetrole]

Think the dude said he can't use VSTs cos Reason doesn't support them, so its not much use for this kinda thing..

Reaper is a great..

Thank you for clearing that up.

In that case yes, switch to Reaper. Reason imo is such a horrible and confusing platform. You can also use it through Reaper via Rewire, I do find this useful for using the instruments in Reason for prepro/demo purposes

No hard feelings @Plendakor, from what I remember your French so maybe your English isn't so good? If you have any other questions feel free to PM me

 

[Plendakor]

Hey thanks for the infos but no, I'm not French, just canadian and a bit hangover lol !

So yeah, I do use Reaper once in a while, I think it's probably the greatest DAW i've used so far but I didn't use it enough. I like Reason for the drum kits 2.0 and the bass refills. One thing that bugs me with Reaper is when you record something and press spacebar or stop, it'll ask you to save the .wav while in Reason 6, everything you do is stored in a single .reason file

An other thing, I actually don't have any VSTis, only effects.. and most of my tunes have keyboards in them