Religious Group Forces Cancellation of "Black Mass" in Australia

yeah well what else sucks is the fact you will nearly be thrown in jail for wering a straight pride tee shirt.
 
yeah well what else sucks is the fact you will nearly be thrown in jail for wering a straight pride tee shirt.

So that makes it okay to force concerts to cancel because you disagree with their ideologies?There's an aphorism regarding multiple wrongs and how they don't magically create correct outcomes, that comes to mind whenever I see comments of that nature made in response to criticisms of a given group's actions.

In other words - forcing the event into cancellation was wrong, and in my opinion extremely ignorant. Pointing out a perceived injustice comitted -against- the group in question does not justify the original action, especially when the injustice perceived has -absolutely nothing to do- with the event's cancellation. It'd be like taking a court case where subject A has attacked subject B, and subject A's defense/justification is "Well this one time he made fun of my mom."

Yeah. not gonna fly.
 
I'm sorry, I can't taking the Black Mass seriously when they use an inverted crucifix as their symbol. Clearly, they don't realize that the inverted crucifix is a Christian symbol, which represents an upside-down crucifix, also known as "The Petrine Cross". Saint Peter died when he was crucified upside-down. Upside-down cross does not mean the opposite of Christian. XP
 
I'm sorry, I can't taking the Black Mass seriously when they use an inverted crucifix as their symbol. Clearly, they don't realize that the inverted crucifix is a Christian symbol, which represents an upside-down crucifix, also known as "The Petrine Cross". Saint Peter died when he was crucified upside-down. Upside-down cross does not mean the opposite of Christian. XP

Thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one who realizes this.
 
I'm sorry, I can't taking the Black Mass seriously when they use an inverted crucifix as their symbol. Clearly, they don't realize that the inverted crucifix is a Christian symbol, which represents an upside-down crucifix, also known as "The Petrine Cross". Saint Peter died when he was crucified upside-down. Upside-down cross does not mean the opposite of Christian. XP
Can any band who sings in praise of Satan really be taken seriously? Satan was born of the Abrahamic religions. And based on the teachings of those religions, aligning yourself with him is akin to betting on Charlie Brown, instead of Lucy, in a football kicking contest.

As for the inverted cross, while its origins may lie within Catholic tradition, its use as a religious symbol has been usurped by Satanism. Also keep in mind, they're not depicting Peter crucified upside down, which is where the symbol you're referring to was born. They're depicting Christ crucified upside down. And since 99% of Christians would likely agree such imagery is blasphemous (hence the cancellation of the concert), the band has done what they set out to do with their imagery.

As for canceling the concert, it's silly. I have to laugh at religious groups who concern themselves with such things. Is this really the most effective use of their church's time?
 
As for canceling the concert, it's silly. I have to laugh at religious groups who concern themselves with such things. Is this really the most effective use of their church's time?

I agreee. If a bunch of kids with daddy issues want to worship the devil as their own little form of rebellion, have at it. So long as they're not sacrificing babies, it's not hurting anything.
 
Additionally, I'm sure that most of the Satanist bands are well aware of the history behind the imagery of the inverted cross. It's historical meaning doesn't have much at all to do with its present day meaning. I'm sure you won't see a halt in its use any time soon, just like you won't see a pause in the use of swastikas from NSBM bands just because of its pre-1930s meaning.
 
Paganism. Satanism. Theism.
All forms of the same base desire for an adult version of Santa Clause.

This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:

John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss Hank's ass with us."

Me: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who's Hank, and why would I want to kiss His ass?"

John: "If you kiss Hank's ass, He'll give you a million dollars; and if you don't, He'll kick the shit out of you."

Me: "What? Is this some sort of bizarre mob shake-down?"

John: "Hank is a billionaire philanthropist. Hank built this town. Hank owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

Me: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

Mary: "Who are you to question Hank's gift? Don't you want a million dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

Me: "Well maybe, if it's legit, but..."

John: "Then come kiss Hank's ass with us."

Me: "Do you kiss Hank's ass often?"

Mary: "Oh yes, all the time..."

Me: "And has He given you a million dollars?"

John: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

Me: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

Mary: "You can't leave until Hank tells you to, or you don't get the money, and He kicks the shit out of you."

Me: "Do you know anyone who kissed Hank's ass, left town, and got the million dollars?"

John: "My mother kissed Hank's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

Me: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

John: "Of course not, Hank doesn't allow it."

Me: "So what makes you think He'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

Mary: "Well, He gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

Me: "What's that got to do with Hank?"

John: "Hank has certain 'connections.'"

Me: "I'm sorry, but this sounds like some sort of bizarre con game."

John: "But it's a million dollars, can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss Hank's ass He'll kick the shit out of you."

Me: "Maybe if I could see Hank, talk to Him, get the details straight from Him..."

Mary: "No one sees Hank, no one talks to Hank."

Me: "Then how do you kiss His ass?"

John: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

Me: "Who's Karl?"

Mary: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing Hank's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

Me: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a Hank, that Hank wanted you to kiss His ass, and that Hank would reward you?"

John: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from Hank years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."

From the Desk of Karl

1. Kiss Hank's ass and He'll give you a million dollars when you leave town.
2. Use alcohol in moderation.
3. Kick the shit out of people who aren't like you.
4. Eat right.
5. Hank dictated this list Himself.
6. The moon is made of green cheese.
7. Everything Hank says is right.
8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9. Don't use alcohol.
10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11. Kiss Hank's ass or He'll kick the shit out of you.

Me: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."

Mary: "Hank didn't have any paper."

Me: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

John: "Of course, Hank dictated it."

Me: "I thought you said no one gets to see Hank?"

Mary: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

Me: "I thought you said He was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist kicks the shit out of people just because they're different?"

Mary: "It's what Hank wants, and Hank's always right."

Me: "How do you figure that?"

Mary: "Item 7 says 'Everything Hank says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

Me: "Maybe your friend Karl just made the whole thing up."

John: "No way! Item 5 says 'Hank dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

Me: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

John: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

Me: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

Mary: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

Me: "I'm not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow 'captured' by the Earth has been discounted*. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it cheese."

John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know Hank is always right!"

Me: "We do?"

Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

Me: "You're saying Hank's always right because the list says so, the list is right because Hank dictated it, and we know that Hank dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying 'Hank's right because He says He's right.'"

John: "Now you're getting it! It's so rewarding to see someone come around to Hank's way of thinking."

Me: "But...oh, never mind. What's the deal with wieners?"

Mary: She blushes.

John: "Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's Hank's way. Anything else is wrong."

Me: "What if I don't have a bun?"

John: "No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong."

Me: "No relish? No Mustard?"

Mary: She looks positively stricken.

John: He's shouting. "There's no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!"

Me: "So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?"

Mary: Sticks her fingers in her ears."I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la la."

John: "That's disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that..."

Me: "It's good! I eat it all the time."

Mary: She faints.

John: He catches Mary. "Well, if I'd known you were one of those I wouldn't have wasted my time. When Hank kicks the shit out of you I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss Hank's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater."

With this, John dragged Mary to their waiting car, and sped off.
 
Paganism. Satanism. Theism.
All forms of the same base desire for an adult version of Santa Clause.

This morning there was a knock at my door....

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I agreee. If a bunch of kids with daddy issues want to worship the devil as their own little form of rebellion, have at it. So long as they're not sacrificing babies, it's not hurting anything.
Agreed.

This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:
LOL. I had never seen that before.
 
Paganism. Satanism. Theism.
All forms of the same base desire for an adult version of Santa Clause.

This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:

HAHA Nice!! I'm glad I clicked this thread after all.
 

Well, since we're using image macros to deliver:

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I think most bands that are still overtly satanic do so with a tongue-in-cheek approach, like Skeletonwitch*; and I don't think many embrace the idea with any degree of sincerity except for like...That guy from Emperor, or maybe some of those folks that are into the Lavey crap, which isn't even theistic, it's just silly. But whatever tickles your pickle, put a battery in that summbitch and let it hum.

Also, if you look closely,..well you don't even have to look very closely, but within all of the typically indecipherable logo wank, none of the band logos make use of inverted crosses or upside-down pentagrams. (one makes use of an up-side-up pent-a-whirl, however.) Concert posters can often be deceiving; like this one time I went to a local show and the concert poster featured a crude drawing of a pair of large-breasted women pouring beer into Satan's open mouth.

And There weren't any chicks there at all! And only one song that was performed that night even made mention of the devil at all! WHAT A GYP!


*Who are awesome live, by the way.

But what the fuck do I know? I'm a Discordian.