XtremeParanoia
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Since this is a metal forum I will list the process that I go about for rock tracks for fixing timings. Note, there are lots of other good applications for the AudioSnap process if you are doing other styles like Rap or Electronic music.
First off, how to get AudioSnap set up.
When you are on the track view page, if you are trying to fix your snare track, right click on the visual representation of the wav for your snare. In the mini menu that pops up goto AudioSnap and then click on enable AudioSnap. Now the AudioSnap pallette will show up with lots of goodies depending on what you will be doing. the first two things you want to look at and set up are the sensitivity and threshold sliders. These set up your transient markers by specifying what it takes for the program to put and marker where you want them. After you have fooled around with the settings to get your hits marked it is time to do the actuall sliding of snare hits to the correct place, so go ahead and close the little AudioSnap pallette window.
Back on the track view, find the first time that your snare is not at the timing that you want. With the transient markers there are a few things that you can do. at the top of the lines there are small diamonds that when you click and drag them you can manually set where your marker is supposed to sit on the track without affecting the actuall timing of the hits. This is not what you want to do unless for some reason Sonar did not correctly locate the transient of your snare. The second thing you can do with the markers is what we will be looking at. If you grab the middle of the marker in the center related to top and bottom you can also drag your marker ahead or behind in time. This time when you are moving your marker you are actually moving where the hit is located at and where the marker is located now. Once you have done this for all of the snare hits that you want corrected, you are ready to fix any other tracks that the snare is aparent in and would normally create an echo if you didn't fix.
Right click on your snare track and go back into the AudioSnap pallette menu. Up in the top left corner of the window you will see four icons. The third from the left, I believe, is the button to add transient markers to a pool. You want to do precisely that at this point. What you have done in essence is to create a guide tempo track. Right click on the first auxilary track that needs to have the snare hits moved in time with the actual snare track and right click on it. You want to enable AudioSnap for this travk also which will bring up the AudioSnap pallette window again. This time we will be using the settings that are below where we added the transients to the pool before. The option that we want to choose is to quantize to pool. Once you click on quanitze to pool you will see more options on the right side of the window with settings to determine how precise you want to quantize your track. In all but on case I have done I make sure that I am quantizing to 100% because you want it to be perfectly in line with your actual snare track to eliminate the echo. Once this is done you click on the quantize button in the botton right corner and Sonar will do its thing and move bits of the track to the points that you moved your snare track hits. Just do the same procedure for the other tracks where snare is noticable and you have done it.
As you will see when you go through this process, it is not difficult or time consuming. What does take a little while is making sure that your transients are set up will enough that other things in your OH tracks are not getting moved also. I'm sure there are some things that I forgot to add that will make this and easier process and I will edit and add to this when I get back infront of my computer at work and actually look at Sonar again.
PS. another trick which I forgot to include originally which is extremely hit or miss is to enable AudioSnap for everytrack that you will be editing and the left click on the hit on your snare track, then ctrl-left click on the same transient on the other tracks that need editing. This will allow you to drag the transients for every track at the same time and may be extremely fast if you only have a hit or two to edit.
PPS. when you need to do fine tuning for timing of hits you will notice that you have to move a little ways away before the transient will begin to move. If you hold down or are still holding down the ctrl button you can fine tune how far you need to move hits.
First off, how to get AudioSnap set up.
When you are on the track view page, if you are trying to fix your snare track, right click on the visual representation of the wav for your snare. In the mini menu that pops up goto AudioSnap and then click on enable AudioSnap. Now the AudioSnap pallette will show up with lots of goodies depending on what you will be doing. the first two things you want to look at and set up are the sensitivity and threshold sliders. These set up your transient markers by specifying what it takes for the program to put and marker where you want them. After you have fooled around with the settings to get your hits marked it is time to do the actuall sliding of snare hits to the correct place, so go ahead and close the little AudioSnap pallette window.
Back on the track view, find the first time that your snare is not at the timing that you want. With the transient markers there are a few things that you can do. at the top of the lines there are small diamonds that when you click and drag them you can manually set where your marker is supposed to sit on the track without affecting the actuall timing of the hits. This is not what you want to do unless for some reason Sonar did not correctly locate the transient of your snare. The second thing you can do with the markers is what we will be looking at. If you grab the middle of the marker in the center related to top and bottom you can also drag your marker ahead or behind in time. This time when you are moving your marker you are actually moving where the hit is located at and where the marker is located now. Once you have done this for all of the snare hits that you want corrected, you are ready to fix any other tracks that the snare is aparent in and would normally create an echo if you didn't fix.
Right click on your snare track and go back into the AudioSnap pallette menu. Up in the top left corner of the window you will see four icons. The third from the left, I believe, is the button to add transient markers to a pool. You want to do precisely that at this point. What you have done in essence is to create a guide tempo track. Right click on the first auxilary track that needs to have the snare hits moved in time with the actual snare track and right click on it. You want to enable AudioSnap for this travk also which will bring up the AudioSnap pallette window again. This time we will be using the settings that are below where we added the transients to the pool before. The option that we want to choose is to quantize to pool. Once you click on quanitze to pool you will see more options on the right side of the window with settings to determine how precise you want to quantize your track. In all but on case I have done I make sure that I am quantizing to 100% because you want it to be perfectly in line with your actual snare track to eliminate the echo. Once this is done you click on the quantize button in the botton right corner and Sonar will do its thing and move bits of the track to the points that you moved your snare track hits. Just do the same procedure for the other tracks where snare is noticable and you have done it.
As you will see when you go through this process, it is not difficult or time consuming. What does take a little while is making sure that your transients are set up will enough that other things in your OH tracks are not getting moved also. I'm sure there are some things that I forgot to add that will make this and easier process and I will edit and add to this when I get back infront of my computer at work and actually look at Sonar again.
PS. another trick which I forgot to include originally which is extremely hit or miss is to enable AudioSnap for everytrack that you will be editing and the left click on the hit on your snare track, then ctrl-left click on the same transient on the other tracks that need editing. This will allow you to drag the transients for every track at the same time and may be extremely fast if you only have a hit or two to edit.
PPS. when you need to do fine tuning for timing of hits you will notice that you have to move a little ways away before the transient will begin to move. If you hold down or are still holding down the ctrl button you can fine tune how far you need to move hits.
thanks for the help guys...
