Right way to split guitar with DI box?

[xmortumx]

Hello.. Well heres my issue... I have a Countryman Type 85 DI box and what I currently do to split guitar is I run this Chain.

Guitar->ContryMan "Inst." IN-> Then with the countryman "Amp" output goes to Peavey Supreme amp

So I record both the DI of guitar, and miced Amp but my issue is that my DI gets this weird feedback(Can only hear when it put an amp sim in insert). I have clips to demonstrate.
Clips (not the best but just want to get point):
Clean DI track: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/728056/test/DI.wav
DI with Lepou amp: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/728056/test/DI_AmpSim.wav Notice that towards the end(breakdowns) you hear that feedback when guitar stops playing.
Amp miced: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/728056/test/Real_Amp.wav

So yeah I know that feedback can easily be cut.. but why is that when i record the DI with no splitting to Real amp I dont get that(Feedback or Hum)? Em I even splitting the guitar right with the countryman? I know you guys might say Put the ground switch but that only makes it worse :Smug:
BTW I read the Countryman Manual but didnt really understand the way they mention how to split guitar signal, anyone can clarify?

 

[Jordon]

Sounds to me like you have a LOT of gain with the amp sim. Think you might be hearing all of the minute bits of noise from the guitar/cable/signal chain being amplified.

 

[AerialThesis]

yea or maybe there is alot of crosstalk in your box and the gain is making it apparent, but i prefer the previous answer.

 

[paladin shredder]

thats weird. here are a few suggestions that might help.

try reamping the signal or using different amp sims.
try adjusting the input of the signal into the amp sim, it should be at unity gain.
try recording at 24/48. sometimes lower sample rates can create artifacts in a di signal.

 

[xmortumx]

But em I splitting the guitar signal correctly?
According to the manual http://www.countryman.com/download/Type 85 DI Box booklet.pdf

The guitar should first be connected to the amp head.. then i guess back to the Countryman box "Inst" in then from the countryman "Amp" to speaker?

But from the guitar head should it be send thru Fx Send to the countryman?

Click on link and look at their diagram thats what im confused about.. because i dont know if my loop is what causing the hum in DI.

 

[arv_foh]

But em I splitting the guitar signal correctly?
According to the manual http://www.countryman.com/download/Type 85 DI Box booklet.pdf

The guitar should first be connected to the amp head.. then i guess back to the Countryman box "Inst" in then from the countryman "Amp" to speaker?

But from the guitar head should it be send thru Fx Send to the countryman?

Click on link and look at their diagram thats what im confused about.. because i dont know if my loop is what causing the hum in DI.

No

You had it hooked up correctly the first time, guitar to instr, amp to amp, xlr to interface

Sounds to me like you have a LOT of gain with the amp sim. Think you might be hearing all of the minute bits of noise from the guitar/cable/signal chain being amplified.

This, that noise is present in all the clips, compress the clean DI and you can hear it, the amp sim is just amplifying it ten fold compared to the amp

 

[xmortumx]

Hmm yeah that sound is present in all of em.
So what can be causing it?

 

[arv_foh]

Hmm yeah that sound is present in all of em.
So what can be causing it?

Could be a noisy preamp or if you are recording in 16 bit instead of 24 bit, also this should have been posted in the equipment section

 

[kevinw4td]

for a temp fix, try noise gateing.. watch out to make sure that it doesn't trip it when you have your guitars hang on a breakdown

i amped your signal with my preset and no hiss or him in the pauses is there

 

[KillDivision]

See if there isn't any poweradapter near the Countryman.

I had it once with the adapter of a preamp wich was near the DI, caused a buzz/noise.