Saviour Machine - latest update

[Sir Exar Kun]

It seems to me like something fundamentalist Christian America would hate and try as hard as possible to get banned forever.

When I first started getting into SM (wait..... that sounds wrong.... ), I assumed they were German (or at least Eastern European) and figured that was why they could get away with being so crazy hardcore..... Never would have guessed they were from California!

 

[OrbWeaver]

Yup! SM are from the US! I believe they've played Cornerstone a few times.

 

[sh0kr0k]

Yep, I've seen them at Cornerstone Fest once. The other time was at the famous Halloween '99 show in Elgin.

Their stage show is pretty intense. In reference to the Minneapolis thing,if people would take the time to understand what's going on, they'd be a lot less offended.

 

[Sir Exar Kun]

In reference to the Minneapolis thing,if people would take the time to understand what's going on, they'd be a lot less offended.

Boy, THAT statement could get applied to a WHOLE LOT of modern situations far outside the musical community.

 

[BenMech]

What I heard on Ayreon's THE was pretty cool. Good deep voice.

Is that the ONLY place Clayton sang without the Jesus junk gunking it up?

And Thanks for that YouTube video, Glenn.

 

[Evil]

Ummm so i watched that video(well half of it) and have no idea wtf i saw....

 

[MetalNations]

http://firestreamvault.com/main/index.php?go=front/index.php&go=showcat&cat_id=52

"Despite critical acclaim from the secular press and a growing number of fans nationwide, people in some Christian circles felt threatened by Saviour Machine's bold lyrical direction and stylized stage presentation, most prominently the white make-up and jewel worn by vocalist Eric Clayton. During a 1993 tour with Christian rock band Deliverance, the controversy spilled over at a concert at the New Union, a Christian music club in Minneapolis. Several songs into their set, the power was cut and the performers were ushered from the stage. This was followed by an announcement from New Union management stating they were uncomfortable with the content of the show. However, many in the crowd gathered with band members at a local restaurant to show their continued support."

Yup.. at the White Castle.

They opened up for Deliverence.

Half of the people left the show and did not stay around for the headliner.

I only been their once to support CRIMSON THORN. Then I have not been their since and will not till this day.

The church that runs that venue is a multi-million dollar church and the lead guy has his own jet... hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[MetalNations]

Yep, I've seen them at Cornerstone Fest once. The other time was at the famous Halloween '99 show in Elgin.

Their stage show is pretty intense. In reference to the Minneapolis thing,if people would take the time to understand what's going on, they'd be a lot less offended.

Agreed.

 

[edgeofthorns]

Of course, most metal fans aren't "fundamentalist Christian America" either, so I would guess that's why it works out for the band. Which is good.

I fit the "fundamentalist Christian America" stereotype that you're speaking of and I love the band. I hate it that I've never been able to see the band live. Granted, most of my peers won't try to see what a band is saying if they fit into a "metal" sub-genre.

~Brian~

 

[OrbWeaver]

You must be hiding your fire and brimstone tendencies very well, then.

 

[exact3]

I like SM quite a bit. It is sad to see what is going on with Eric. I really would have liked to hear Legend III:II...

Alex

 

[Mr. Zane of HW]

What I heard on Ayreon's THE was pretty cool. Good deep voice.

Is that the ONLY place Clayton sang without the Jesus junk gunking it up?

And Thanks for that YouTube video, Glenn.

He sings about his beliefs because he BELIEVES in it. I had the pleasure to briefly meet and speak with him ay a fest and he is a genuine and nice human. The Jesus "gunk" is sacred to him.

 

[BenMech]

He sings about his beliefs because he BELIEVES in it. I had the pleasure to briefly meet and speak with him ay a fest and he is a genuine and nice human. The Jesus "gunk" is sacred to him.

But it keeps somebody who REALLY isn't into the religious music stuff (specifically Christianity) away from trying.

I was asking if there are OTHER avenues to explore his talents WITHOUT being swallowed up by his theological preferences.

 

[sh0kr0k]

What I heard on Ayreon's THE was pretty cool. Good deep voice.

Is that the ONLY place Clayton sang without the Jesus junk gunking it up?

And Thanks for that YouTube video, Glenn.

I believe that the Ayreon project is the only thing he has done outside of a religious context. Sorry. Any chance you can ignore the content in the same way that we ignore the content of pagan black metal and whatnot? Lyrics is lyrics, y'ain't gotta believe it to listen to it. Unless you just simply can't stand to hear it at all, there are some SM songs on earlier albums (read: outside of the Legend trilogy) that are a little less blatant and/orlyrically ambiguous.

For instance "Carnival of Souls" - there are MANY great youtube videos to choose from with a quick search as most of their DVDs have been uploaded.

Yup.. at the White Castle.

They opened up for Deliverence.

Half of the people left the show and did not stay around for the headliner.

I only been their once to support CRIMSON THORN. Then I have not been their since and will not till this day.

Wait, wait, wait -- Deliverance, Savior Machine, and Crimson Thorn in the same show???? WOW!! Would have loved to see that one! <3

 

[sh0kr0k]

Hey Ben, try this one too. This is one of the most popular SM videos/performances. The lyrics are about apocalyptic prophecy, but I'm pretty sure you won't be left with a feeling of being preached at ;-)

 

[halcyonwayband@aol.com]

The first SM album is one of the best things to have ever been released....just amazing start to finish.

 

[BenMech]

Thanks Tammy. The dude has a really good voice. I'm happy with the Ayreon then (plus the ep cover tunes Clayton helped).
I guess it's just weird when you're outside the system, rather than inside it. Can't get all the references or whatever.

 

[sh0kr0k]

Thanks Tammy. The dude has a really good voice. I'm happy with the Ayreon then (plus the ep cover tunes Clayton helped).
I guess it's just weird when you're outside the system, rather than inside it. Can't get all the references or whatever.

Oh man, I still don't get all the references and I've been studying the Bible for 15 years (with 5 of those being at a University level) Clayton poured himself into the project wholly for years so I guess I'm not surprised he's gotten more out of end-time revelation than I have.

 

[sh0kr0k]

Posting a quote from a friend at another forum:

I think Eric is alright. Yes, he has Barret's, but from all OFFICIAL reports, he's actually doing a lot better now. Anybody who frequents the SM board who is familiar with "Adam" - the forum admin, also should know that Adam is a VERY good friend to Eric and talks with him quite constantly. Matter of fact, EC has been helping Adam with producing Adam's band's first album.

If you go to page 2 of the thread entitled, "A Message from Eric Clayton" on the SM board, you'll see Adam's response on Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:24 pm to all the speculation, in which he states, "FYI - ERIC IS NOT DYING! At least not at any faster rate than anyone else."

Based on Adam's comment, I'm going to assume that the tone of Eric's video message is just Eric satisfying his obsessive penchant for all things "Theatrical". For what reason is anybody's guess.

 

[The Invisible Guest]

I have a question ... will I go to hell if I illegally download some of Saviour Machine's material? I'm a bit conflicted and all seeing how they are a religious band I promise to buy something if I actually like it. Judging from the various clips it's at least somewhat interesting sounding.


Britt