scales

[frenk]

Please check if right
I've tabbed them out myself 'cause I haven't found right ones on the net.
I've found the formulas though:


Dorian 1 2 b3 4 5 6 b7
Phrygian 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Lydian 1 2 3 #4 5 6 7
Mixolydian 1 2 3 4 5 6 b7
Aeolian 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Locrian 1 b2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7

Dorian C D D# F G A A#
Phrygian C C# D# F G G# A#
Lydian C D E F# G A B
Mixolydian C D E F G A A#
Aeolian C D D# F G G# A#
Locrian C C# D# F F# G# A#

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Gtr I (E A D G B E) - 'Untitled'

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Gtr I
E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|-------------------------5-7-8----|
|-------------------5-6-8----------|
|-------------4-5-7----------------| Major/Ionic
|-------3-5-7----------------------|
|-3-5-7----------------------------|
|----------------------------------|


E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|-------------------------5-6-8----|
|-----------------3-4-6-8----------|
|-------------3-5------------------| Dorian
|-------3-5-7----------------------|
|-3-5-6----------------------------|
|----------------------------------|


E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|-------------------------4-6-8----|
|-------------------4-6-8----------|
|-------------3-5-6----------------| Phrygian
|-------3-5-6----------------------|
|-3-4-6----------------------------|
|----------------------------------|


E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|-----------------------3-5-7-8----|
|-------------------5-7------------|
|-------------4-5-7----------------| Lydian
|-------4-5-7----------------------|
|-3-5-7----------------------------|
|----------------------------------|


E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|----------------------------6-8-10----|
|-------------------5-6-8-10-----------|
|-------------3-5-7--------------------| Mixolydian
|-------3-5-7--------------------------|
|-3-5-7--------------------------------|
|--------------------------------------|


E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|-------------------------4-6----|
|-------------------4-6-8--------|
|-------------3-5-7--------------| Aeolian
|-------3-5-6--------------------|
|-3-5-6--------------------------|
|--------------------------------|


E E E E E E E E E E E E E E
|---------------------------6----|
|---------------------6-8-9------|
|-------------3-5-6-8------------| Locrian
|-------3-5-6--------------------|
|-3-4-6--------------------------|
|--------------------------------|



Thanks in advance

 

[OfSinsAndShred]

Um... I'm sure someone's going to bitch that this should be in musician's corner. But after a quick glance (don't quote me on this, it was a quick glance) everything looks correct. Cool.

 

[Dobbit]

Locrian is wrong. It would be tabbed out like this:

E----------------------
B----------------------
G----------------3-5--
D---------3-4-6-------
A--3-4-6--------------
E----------------------
the formula is : 1 b2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7, you had that right, just not how it would be on the guitar.

 

[kev]

Locrian is wrong. It would be tabbed out like this:

E----------------------
B----------------------
G----------------3-5--
D---------3-4-6-------
A--3-4-6--------------
E----------------------
the formula is : 1 b2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7, you had that right, just not how it would be on the guitar.

what do all the 'b's mean?

 

[frenk]

what do all the 'b's mean?

It means the tone is 1 fret.

The scales are all based on

C D E F G A B (-C)
(not the notes, the fret distance, so W (2 frets) and H (1 fret))

The forumula for that is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
when there is a b , you should go one fret lower.
If there is a # you should go one fret up.

Here is a better+longer explanation http://home.nedlinux.nl/~delphiro/git_le3.html (but its dutch)

Also, I've used this http://www.gitaartabs.nl/Scales/Scale_full_notes.gif
to find out where is what.
(since I do not know whole fretboard by heart)

I was wondering, does michael romeo or john petrucci and so know the fretboard by heart?
Or have they just practiced calculated much? (A + 10 fret = ...)
And about scales, can they just construct them by thinking... this formula... lets take these frets?

Er.. and another question.
Why do they re-tune the guitars so much in progressive metal bands?
(dream theater,symphony x etc)
They don't like EADGBE?

 

[Zax666]

Er.. and another question.
Why do they re-tune the guitars so much in progressive metal bands?
(dream theater,symphony x etc)
They don't like EADGBE?

No. They don't like E standard. It gives them indigestion.

There it no 'correct' way to tune a stringed instrument, no matter what the geezers will tell ya. Tuning down gives you a bit fatter tone and ALOT less string tension (this translates to 10 gauge stings sounding like 11s and easy to bend and fret like 8s. Feels almost like cheating. ).

I personally tune to Eb, but I'm the forum wierdo (ya know, the ones that always kill the threads ).

Oh, BTW most people call it downtuning.

 

[TekChef]

There is also the vocal range of your singer to consider-even skilled males can be in the lower register of things. You have to work in your vocalist's range.
Ex-
In Symph X's case, since the Keyboard can shift keys easily(espc with someone who can play like Pinella can!), the detuning of the guitar and bass make the songs a bit lower in overall pitch range. Which is prob the normal range for Russell when he sings, and that takes much burden off of his pipes.

Combine that with the fact it does give the guitar/bass heavier tone-it's still metal after all!-it all adds up.

 

[Mike7771]

www.guitarknowledgenet

 

[OfSinsAndShred]

I just noticed an error in the original post! Man, I'm kicking myself for not noticing this:

Dorian 1 2 b3 4 5 6 b7
Phrygian 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Lydian 1 2 3 #4 5 6 7
Mixolydian 1 2 3 4 5 6 b7
Aeolian 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7
Locrian 1 b2 b3 4 b5 b6 b7

Dorian C D D# F G A A#
Phrygian C C# D# F G G# A#
Lydian C D E F# G A B
Mixolydian C D E F G A A#
Aeolian C D D# F G G# A#
Locrian C C# D# F F# G# A#

The forumlas (Dorian = 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, 6, b7, for example) are right, but when you translate them to actual notes, you always use sharps, when sometimes you should be using flats. Every scale should be spelled C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C, with sharps or flats, depending on which mode it is.
Dorian, for example: C, D, Eb, F, G, A, Bb.
It might seem trivial, but there is a difference between a raised second and a flatted third.
Okay, no more of me being a theory nerd. Later.

 

[ABQShredHead]

I just noticed an error in the original post! Man, I'm kicking myself for not noticing this:

The forumlas (Dorian = 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, 6, b7, for example) are right, but when you translate them to actual notes, you always use sharps, when sometimes you should be using flats. Every scale should be spelled C, D, E, F, G, A, B, C, with sharps or flats, depending on which mode it is.
Dorian, for example: C, D, Eb, F, G, A, Bb.
It might seem trivial, but there is a difference between a raised second and a flatted third.
Okay, no more of me being a theory nerd. Later.

Very correct, and it's not being a "theory nerd".